From peoplelikeus at mistral.co.uk Mon Sep 6 13:49:28 2004 From: peoplelikeus at mistral.co.uk (Vicki Bennett) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:17:12 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Fwd: A 61 seconds song is too long Message-ID: Forwarding this cos it looks fun: Begin forwarded message: > From: Michael Howes > Date: 6 September 2004 08:14:26 BST > To: mhowes@baptismofsolitude.org > Subject: A 61 seconds song is too long > > > I know this is late notice..but this is going to be fun (for me at > least) > > Tomorrow (Monday the 6th) on KZSU, 90.1 FM from 7 AM until 11:40 PM > Pacific time we are going to try and play 1000 songs in 1000 minutes. > Or something like that. > > We aren't going to play any song longer than 60 seconds! (and plenty > of songs less than 30 seconds) > Try not to play duplicates or multiple tracks from the same release. > And we are actually going to DJ the whole thing. No cheating by > burning mixes ahead of time. > > no music genre will go untouched > it's going to be one, quick changing, bunch of chaos. > > Tune in. > > 90.1 FM in the bay area or stream it at http://kzsulive.stanford.edu > > mike > > PS I'm going to be doing a couple of "slots", 18:40-19:30 I'm going to > be playing all sorts of non-metal, non-punk, non-hardcore stuff > including short (ha, what won't be) tribute sets to classical music > short songs, no wave short songs, zorn, yoshihide, and sample-art. > 20:20-21:10 im going to be playing tons of grindcore and 80s hardcore. > > PSS for the geeks among you. I currently have planned 185 tracks that > total 7934 seconds (132 minutes) that i'm splitting between my two > slots. > > http://www.peoplelikeus.org http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/PL From kembrew at kembrew.com Wed Sep 8 12:27:17 2004 From: kembrew at kembrew.com (kembrew@kembrew.com) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:19:00 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Suggestion from kembrew Message-ID: <200409081527.LAA27939@uas021.disk.sterling.va.infi.net> Hi party people, kembrew stopped by Tennessean.com and suggested that you visit the following URL: http://www.tennessean.com/business/archives/04/08/57135362.shtml?Element_ID=57135362 Here is their message to you: my favorite doublethinking line from the court decision was "'Get a license or do not sample. We do not see this as stifling creativity in any significant way.'' Check us out! Tennessean.com Middle Tennessee's Information Provider From stalliongsta at yahoo.com Wed Sep 8 09:57:04 2004 From: stalliongsta at yahoo.com (stAllio! the original wanksta) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:19:03 2004 Subject: [Rumori] US appeals court: all samples must be paid for Message-ID: <20040908155704.75848.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> i looked up "unenforceable" in the dictionary and found this article: http://reviewappeal.midsouthnews.com/news.ez?viewStory=25087 Court rules music 'sampling' may violate anti-piracy law By JOHN GEROME / Associated Press Writer NASHVILLE — A federal appeals court ruling Tuesday means rap artists would have to pay for every musical sample included in their work — even minor, unrecognizable snippets of music. Lower courts had already ruled that artists must pay when they sample another artists' work. But it has been legal to use musical snippets — a note here, a chord there — as long as it wasn't identifiable. The decision by a three-judge panel of the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati gets rid of that distinction. The court said federal laws aimed at stopping piracy of recordings applies to digital sampling. "If you cannot pirate the whole sound recording, can you 'lift' or 'sample' something less than the whole? Our answer to that question is in the negative," the court said. "Get a license or do not sample. We do not see this as stifling creativity in any significant way." But some observers question whether the court's opinion is too restrictive, especially for rap and hip-hop artists who often rhyme over samples of music taken from older recordings. "It seems a little extreme to me," said James Van Hook, dean of Belmont University's Mike Curb College of Entertainment and Music Business. "I would worry that if the identity issue is too small then you begin to restrict the creative process. "When something is identifiable, that is the key — whether it's identifiable enough that it has some sense of identity to enough people," he said. The case deals with protection of the sound recording, as opposed to the protection of the composition itself. It is one of at least 800 lawsuits filed in Nashville over lifting snippets of music from older recordings for new music. The argument was over the NWA song "100 Miles and Runnin," which samples a three-note guitar riff from "Get Off Your Ass and Jam" by '70s funk-master George Clinton and Funkadelic. In the two-second sample, the guitar pitch has been lowered, and the copied piece was "looped" and extended to 16 beats. The sample appears five times in the new song. The NWA song was included in the 1998 movie "I Got the Hook Up," starring Master P and produced by his movie company, No Limit Films. No Limit Films has argued that the sample was not protected by copyright law because it was not "original" and because the sample was legally insubstantial. Bridgeport Music and Westbound Records, which claim to own the copyrights for "Get Off Your Ass and Jam," appealed the lower court's summary judgment ruling in favor of No Limit Films. While the lower court said that the riff in Clinton's song was entitled to copyright protection, it said that, based on analyses, the sampling "did not rise to the level of legally cognizable appropriation." "After listening to the copied segment, the sample, and both songs, the district court found that no reasonable juror, even one familiar with the works of George Clinton, would recognize the source of the sample without having been told of its source," the appeals court said in its opinion. On Oct. 11, 2002, the lower court ruled in favor of No Limit Films on the issue of copyright ownership. The appeals court disagreed, saying there was merit to Westbound's arguments that no copyright violation analyses should be used when "the defendant had not disputed that it digitally sampled a copyrighted sound recording." The case has now been remanded to the lower court. Richard Busch, attorney for Westbound Records and Bridgeport Music, said only that he was pleased with the ruling "as it applies to Westbound." Robert Sullivan, attorney for No Limit Films, did not return a phone call to his office. ===== "I prefer the impersonality of email." -drbmd http://www.animalswithinanimals.com http://badtastesucks.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From discosammy at yahoo.com Wed Sep 8 12:49:58 2004 From: discosammy at yahoo.com (Samuel Carey) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:19:16 2004 Subject: [Rumori] holy disappointing rulings batman In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040908184958.51695.qmail@web11509.mail.yahoo.com> http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1490830/20040908/index.jhtml?headlines=true The case at the crux of this new ruling focuses on the 1990 NWA song "100 Miles and Runnin'." The track samples a three-note guitar riff from a 1975 Funkadelic track, "Get Off Your Ass and Jam." The sample, in which the pitch has been lowered, is only two seconds long but is looped to extend to 16 beats, and appears five times throughout the track. The NWA song was included in the 1998 film "I Got the Hook Up," which starred Master P and was produced by his No Limit Films. The film company has argued that the sample was not protected by copyright law. In 2002, a lower court said that though the Clinton riff was in fact entitled to copyright protection, the specific sample "did not rise to the level of legally cognizable appropriation," according to the AP. The appeals court opposed that decision, explaining that an artist who acknowledges that they made use of another artist's work may be liable, and sent the case back to the lower court. "Get a license or do not sample," the court said Tuesday. "We do not see this as stifling creativity in any significant way." For the best selection of pre-owned septic tanks visit: Mediatronic Research Laboratory --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. From david at personify.tv Fri Sep 10 13:46:42 2004 From: david at personify.tv (David Goldschmidt) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:23:52 2004 Subject: [Rumori] if media mashing were a game ... Message-ID: <414204A2.4080103@personify.tv> hey- Anyone have any ideas for a game whose players have to mash media? What kind of game format would work best? RPG? Strategy? I am looking for ideas and partners to help with this project. Please contact me if interested. thanks, david goldschmidt mediatrips.com From steev at detritus.net Fri Sep 10 19:58:03 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:24:19 2004 Subject: [Rumori] just replace bono with dubya Message-ID: this is so fucking great: http://www.professorlauncher.com/rjackson/sunday.mp3 smh Steev Hise . steev@detritus.net . http://detritus.net/steev blog: http://steev.hise.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- "I wish we had electricity here... we can't have electricity because it would spoil the atmosphere and make it look modern, and then the tourists wouldnt like it." -Padaung tribeswoman, Thailand ----------------------------------------------------------------- From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Thu Sep 16 04:09:22 2004 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (Ed Special) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:30:55 2004 Subject: [Rumori] When I'm The President Message-ID: <560C67CC-07AF-11D9-B289-00039368C928@digitalrealm.net> http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/BettyBoop- WhenI'mThePresident.mp3 Ed From david at personify.tv Thu Sep 16 01:46:51 2004 From: david at personify.tv (David Goldschmidt) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:31:13 2004 Subject: [Rumori] a huge difference between physical and intellectual property Message-ID: <414944EB.3060404@personify.tv> check out Stanford Law professor Mark Lemley paper on Intellectual property . He argues that there is a huge difference between physical and intellectual property, and that benefiting from other's intellectual property is often the best way to form a free and creative society. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=582602 dg From mattdavignon at hotmail.com Wed Sep 15 17:50:57 2004 From: mattdavignon at hotmail.com (matt davignon) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:31:34 2004 Subject: [Rumori] New sampling ruling? Message-ID: Is this new news? I just saw it referenced in another email on the microsound list. http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=43259 Home > News & Opinion > National News Court: Pay to use song 'samples' By Jennifer Rosinski Wednesday, September 8, 2004 Pay up or don't play it, that's what the federal appeals court ruled yesterday in ordering performers to compensate artists whose work they've sampled. The ruling handed down in Cincinnati, Ohio, goes further than previous lower court rulings that ordered performers to pay when they sample another artists' work. This decision by a three-judge panel of the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that it is illegal even to rip off musical snippets that no one would recognize. The court said federal laws aimed at stopping piracy of recordings applies to digital sampling. ``If you cannot pirate the whole sound recording, can you `lift' or `sample' something less than the whole? Our answer to that question is in the negative,'' the court said. ``Get a license or do not sample. We do not see this as stifling creativity in any significant way.'' Some said the decision to outlaw sampling just one note or chord may be too restrictive for rap and hip-hop artists who often rhyme over music taken from older recordings. ``It seems a little extreme to me,'' James Van Hook, dean of Belmont University's Mike Curb College of Entertainment and Music Business, told the Associated Press. ``When something is identifiable, that is the key.'' The case, one of at least 800 lawsuits filed in Nashville over lifting music snippets, centers on the NWA song ``100 Miles and Runnin' '' and its use of a three-note guitar riff from ``Get Off Your Ass and Jam'' by '70s funk-master George Clinton and Funkadelic. In the two-second sample, the guitar pitch has been lowered, and the copied piece was ``looped'' and extended to 16 beats. The sample appears five times in the new song. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Thu Sep 16 06:17:08 2004 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (Ed Special) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:31:58 2004 Subject: [Rumori] When I'm The President Message-ID: <2F179A77-07C1-11D9-A311-00039368C928@digitalrealm.net> http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/BettyBoop- WhenI'mThePresident.mp3 Ed From steev at detritus.net Thu Sep 16 12:38:39 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:33:00 2004 Subject: [Rumori] test Message-ID: is this working now? ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Gandhi was so opposed to passivity that he advised that, if we see an evil being committed and the only options we know about are passivity and violence, we should take the option of violence! Of course Gandhi believed that in real life there are always more than two options..." -George Lakey ----------------------------------------------------------------- From steev at detritus.net Thu Sep 16 17:51:38 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:33:48 2004 Subject: [Rumori] test Message-ID: testing testing.. Steev Hise . steev@detritus.net . http://detritus.net/steev blog: http://steev.hise.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Don't harm a surfer or snowboarder, for surfing and snowboarding are the brother and sister of skateboarding." -Ryan Fanning, Skateboarding Code of Ethics ----------------------------------------------------------------- From steev at detritus.net Thu Sep 16 17:57:38 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:34:08 2004 Subject: [Rumori] test Message-ID: Steev Hise . steev@detritus.net . http://detritus.net/steev blog: http://steev.hise.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Whatever you do, don't think about who controls power or how it is wielded." -Thomas Frank ----------------------------------------------------------------- From steev at detritus.net Thu Sep 16 18:03:26 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:34:23 2004 Subject: [Rumori] test Message-ID: test Steev Hise . steev@detritus.net . http://detritus.net/steev blog: http://steev.hise.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Skills - that was what the hands of the heroes in the novels had, skills. To date, Paul's hands had learned to do little save grip a pen, pencil, toothbrush, hair brush, razor, knife, fork, spoon, cup, glass, faucet, doorknob, switch, handkerchief, towel, zipper, button, snap, bar of soap, book comb, wife, or steering wheel." -Kurt Vonnegut, "Player Piano" ----------------------------------------------------------------- From steev at detritus.net Thu Sep 16 18:14:15 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:34:46 2004 Subject: [Rumori] test Message-ID: Steev Hise . steev@detritus.net . http://detritus.net/steev blog: http://steev.hise.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- "I predict a return of hot sauces to American cuisine. With color TV, the entire sensory life will take on a whole new set of dimensions." -Marshall McLuhan ----------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at inspire.net.nz Fri Sep 17 13:39:24 2004 From: tangent at inspire.net.nz (Sam Stephens) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:40:16 2004 Subject: [Rumori] test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <414ADAFC.22728.5DF0CC9@localhost> On 16 Sep 2004 at 17:03, Steev Hise wrote: > > test I just received this message * postmoderncore website (w/ mp3s & art) http://www.postmoderncore.com/ postmoderncore mailing lists (gig and new release announcements) http://postmoderncore.com/mailman/listinfo/ spoken word and music compilation from Wellington & New Zealand artists http://www.saladbones.co.nz/ * From steev at detritus.net Thu Sep 16 18:44:14 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Sep 16 17:44:18 2004 Subject: [Rumori] list down, back up now Message-ID: 2 weeks ago Mailman died on the detritus server, for some reason. it's back up now. sorry! kudos to Ed for noticing it and asking me what was up with Rumori. oh and also, that betty boop song is awesome. as you were, smh Steev Hise . steev@detritus.net . http://detritus.net/steev blog: http://steev.hise.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Let me through, I just want to see the software". -fan at crowded Matmos show, Aquarius Records, SF ----------------------------------------------------------------- From das at ubuibi.org Thu Sep 16 19:21:03 2004 From: das at ubuibi.org (das) Date: Thu Sep 16 18:24:39 2004 Subject: [Rumori] New sampling ruling? References: Message-ID: <414A3BFF.BCC01861@ubuibi.org> Pay up or don't play it that's what the federal appeals court ruled.. hmmm isn't that what happened, when i went to the store and bought the cd ?? what the hell else do you think made me buy all those Heino records matt davignon wrote: > Is this new news? I just saw it referenced in another email on the > microsound list. > > http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=43259 > Home > News & Opinion > National News > > Court: Pay to use song 'samples' > By Jennifer Rosinski > Wednesday, September 8, 2004 > > Pay up or don't play it, that's what the federal appeals court ruled > yesterday in ordering performers to compensate artists whose work they've > sampled. > The ruling handed down in Cincinnati, Ohio, goes further than previous > lower court rulings that ordered performers to pay when they sample another > artists' work. > This decision by a three-judge panel of the 6th Circuit Court of > Appeals ruled that it is illegal even to rip off musical snippets that no > one would recognize. The court said federal laws aimed at stopping piracy of > recordings applies to digital sampling. > ``If you cannot pirate the whole sound recording, can you `lift' or > `sample' something less than the whole? Our answer to that question is in > the negative,'' the court said. ``Get a license or do not sample. We do not > see this as stifling creativity in any significant way.'' > Some said the decision to outlaw sampling just one note or chord may be > too restrictive for rap and hip-hop artists who often rhyme over music taken > from older recordings. > ``It seems a little extreme to me,'' James Van Hook, dean of Belmont > University's Mike Curb College of Entertainment and Music Business, told the > Associated Press. ``When something is identifiable, that is the key.'' > The case, one of at least 800 lawsuits filed in Nashville over lifting > music snippets, centers on the NWA song ``100 Miles and Runnin' '' and its > use of a three-note guitar riff from ``Get Off Your Ass and Jam'' by '70s > funk-master George Clinton and Funkadelic. > In the two-second sample, the guitar pitch has been lowered, and the > copied piece was ``looped'' and extended to 16 beats. The sample appears > five times in the new song. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Thu Sep 16 23:00:24 2004 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (Ed Special) Date: Thu Sep 16 18:59:23 2004 Subject: [Rumori] political goodies 101 Message-ID: <56CFC058-084D-11D9-ABAA-00039368C928@digitalrealm.net> but wait. there's more: http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/OliveOyl-IfIWerePresident.mp3 http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/VoteForPopeyeOrBluto.mp3 http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/JohnHagee-VoteforOllieNorth.mp3 http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/Hot-HeadsOrWeak-Kneed.mp3 http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/Fair-Fight-Truth.mp3 http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/SupermanVoteProtector1.mp3 http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/SupermanVoteProtector2.mp3 http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/SupermanVoteProtector3.mp3 http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/SupermanVoteProtector4.mp3 http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/SupermanVoteProtector5.mp3 But wait, there's more: http://www.archive.org/web/ web.php?PHPSESSID=4fd69c1f5af38ce96542a085b35a653c http://www.archive.org/web/ web.php?PHPSESSID=4fd69c1f5af38ce96542a085b35a653c Political films from the Prelinger Internet Archive (thanks be to Rick for this invaluable resource): Behind the Freedom Curtain http://www.archive.org/movies/details- db.php?id=168&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32a6 The Truth About Taxes http://www.archive.org/movies/details- db.php?id=1133&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32a6 Tuesday in November http://www.archive.org/movies/details- db.php?id=1136&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32a6 We, The People (Willkie & McNary Know Their Farming) http://www.archive.org/movies/details- db.php?id=1177&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32a6 [Eisenhower Campaign Spots, 1952 Presidential Campaign] http://www.archive.org/movies/details- db.php?id=383&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32a6 [Eisenhower Campaign Spots, 1956 Presidential Campaign] http://www.archive.org/movies/details- db.php?id=384&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32a6 Despotism http://www.archive.org/movies/details- db.php?id=343&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32a6 audio only: http://sensoryresearch.com/~special/mp3/Despotism.mp3 The Powers of Congress http://www.archive.org/movies/details- db.php?id=873&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32a6 [News Magazine of the Screen, December 1950] (Part I) http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?id=740 [News Magazine of the Screen, December 1950] (Part II) http://www.archive.org/movies/details- db.php?id=741&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32a6 Political cartoons: http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=political%20cartoon search thru the whole film library: http://www.archive.org/movies/movieslisting- browse.php?collection=prelinger&PHPSESSID=f408f210913281496a4463141bbc32 a6 Although Superman hath forsaken us, I strongly urge you to consider the following great leader of our time* http://movies10.archive.org/1/movies/FocusLeader02/FocusLeader02.mpg Ed Special *(haha) From steev at detritus.net Thu Sep 16 22:47:01 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Thu Sep 16 21:47:05 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Coldcut's Revolution:USA Message-ID: this is really really cool. download all sorts of hi-resolution political video clips that were used by Coldcut in one of their videos, and make your own mix. The original video is really great, too. smh -----Original Message----- Subject: TV SHERIFF gits a gettin on the RE:VOLUTION! YAAAAAAAAAH-HAWRRRR BUCKARINOS! Isa writin yall today to give you a HEADS UP! that a video revolution is about to begin! YAAARRH-BAAAAAH! MESELF has joined the COLDCUT REMIX RE:VOLUTION USA project about to be born I believe THIS FRIDAY. This legendary UK DJ outfit has called on THE SHERIFF to remix its UK RE:VOLUTION political video mix and BY GOLLY-- I'S DID! And you can too!! Here's the idea: REVOLUTION:USA project This here FRIDAY comes the launching of COLDCUT'S REVOLUTION:USA website, and you'll be able to download this here TV SHERIFF'S remixxy medly- AS WELL AS- sign up to do a remix YOURSELVES! We have created a gigantic library of high res USA political videoclips- all for the taking for remixxing- a must for ANY VIDEO WEIRDOS who I know some are reading this. Im talking over 12 GIGS of awesome political gaffs, f-ups and cant believe its. GET ON IT PEOPLE! If you dont do video then make sure and watch the SHERIFF'S REVOLUTION REMIX: "The World of Evil" Its an equal opportunity conspiracy cut! The site is supposed to launch THIS FRIDAY, SEPT 10th- but may a day or two longer keep checking back HERE IT IS: www.revusa.net/main.php or it may end up just this: www.revusa.net/ There is something there now but the site launches THIS FRIDAY for ultimate fun. On another note my pal BIG MAN has released an awesome DVD of fun political shorts: Its at www.kapeesh.org The SHERIFF has three tracks on this first DVD HEEEE HAWR!! Babies! so Me and me squaw is off to ride humpback whales and go polynesian pina coconutty- We se yall REAL SOON , HERE?!?! \\ \ :P ADIOS SUPERPEOPLE TV SHERIFF! From mhowes at baptismofsolitude.org Fri Sep 17 00:53:17 2004 From: mhowes at baptismofsolitude.org (Michael Howes) Date: Thu Sep 16 23:53:42 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Fwd: A 61 seconds song is too long In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.1.2.0.2.20040916234231.02eca180@baptismofsolitude.org> since the list seems to have been dead many probably missed the following >> Tomorrow (Monday the 6th) on KZSU, 90.1 FM from 7 AM until 11:40 PM >> Pacific time we are going to try and play 1000 songs in 1000 minutes. Or >> something like that. >> >>PSS for the geeks among you. I currently have planned 185 tracks that >>total 7934 seconds (132 minutes) that i'm splitting between my two slots. the final totals? time: 7 AM - 11:42 PM (1002 minutes) unique tracks: 1068 unique artists: 862 unique albums: 953 unique labels: 625 shredding like no other mike PS To make this more relevant (though I find it interesting, as a DJ, the shorter the song gets the more like sample art it seems), here are some of the relevant artists I played, Faust, Coil, Cassetboy, Bob's Media Ecology, Big City Orchestra, Head and Leg, Dummy Run, CC Nova, People Like Us, Porest, Some More Crime, The Tape-Beatles, Vampire Rodents, Negativland, DJ Shadow, and Emcee Dubya vs DJs of Mass Destruction....umm I played all those artists in less than 15 minutes :) PSS Surprisingly little grindcore was played PSSS A full day long playlist can be found here. http://kzsu.stanford.edu/~dollarb/shortsongs.htm 1104 songs from 7 AM- 11:42 PM.....hmm..I *just* now did the math, I thought were were better at not playing so many dupes. PSSSS Next year I do speed first PSSSSS A challenge was put out over the air, for a station to beat what we just did. Next year we are going to try for 2000 songs in 1000 minutes! From steev at detritus.net Sat Sep 18 14:19:00 2004 From: steev at detritus.net (steev@detritus.net) Date: Sat Sep 18 13:19:09 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: Detritus Fundraising Premiums Message-ID: (((((((((((( Detritus Update: Detritus Fundraising Premiums )))))))))))) September 18, 2004 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://detritus.net/blog/archives/000161.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here's another opportunity to help Detritus.net pay for it's server bandwidth costs, AND receive cool and relatively rare STUFF too. Supplies are limited, so, "ACT NOW!" as they say in the biz...

The complete Difficult Listening Hour!

Last year, I made available the first 3 installments of a series of weekly radio programs that I did back in 1991 called The Difficult Listening Hour. The show was an hour-long collage on a different theme each time, consisting of field recordings, sampled media, music, interviews, and other sources. Now we finally have the last 2 shows in the series vailable as well. excerpts:
  • show 1: Noise and Music
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    Wide Open Spaces

    There are also still some copies of the famous "Wide Open Spaces" CD by People Like Us, Matmos, and Wobbly. This disc quickly went out of print or at least "pretty hard to find", so here's your chance if you don't have it already. priced to move at $7, limited quantities. Thanx to Vicki for donating these! blurb:
    Wobbly, People Like Us and Matmos circled their wagons in the lecture hall of the San Francisco Art Institute. Having mutually agreed upon a country-and-western theme, Vicki Bennett (PLU), Jon Leidecker (Wobbly), and Drew Daniel and M. C. Schmidt (Matmos) pored over their archives of honky tonk classics, chopping and dicing Nashville's finest almost beyond recognition, and collectively re-stitched the mangled shreds in crazed digital quilting bee.
    If you're interested in any of these, please use the normal Detritus donation page, at http://detritus.net/donate and note which premium you want in the comment field in the Paypal form -- and be sure to include your address. Offer only good till October 15, 2004, so act now!! thanx so much for your support!! -- Powered by Movable Type Version 2.661 http://www.movabletype.org/ From footage at panix.com Sun Sep 19 22:04:26 2004 From: footage at panix.com (Rick Prelinger) Date: Sun Sep 19 14:05:53 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Screening in NY tomorrow Message-ID: <1501394345-1095627914-cardhu_blackberry.rim.net-15215-@engine38> Panorama Ephemera at Anthology Film Archives, Monday 9/20 at 8 pm. I'll be there. Rick http://www.prelinger.com/panorama.html - - - - - - - - - Rick Prelinger Prelinger Archives. San Francisco footage@panix.com http://www.prelinger.com From mike at burncopy.com Sun Sep 19 18:39:57 2004 From: mike at burncopy.com (Michael Bell-Smith) Date: Sun Sep 19 14:40:12 2004 Subject: [Rumori] 3 Notes and Runnin': Call for Submissions Message-ID: <73BB1ED0-0A84-11D9-B87D-000A95ABB9D2@burncopy.com> Michael Bell-Smith and Downhill Battle are currently seeking submissions for 3 Notes and Runnin?, an online music compilation commemorating and protesting The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals ruling in Case No. 01-00412. In the case, the court found that NWA violated copyright law when they sampled 3 notes of a guitar riff from Funkadelic?s ?Get off Your Ass and Jam? for their song ?100 Miles and Runnin?". The ruling reversed a district court finding that because ?no reasonable juror, even one familiar with the works of George Clinton, would recognize the source of the sample without having been told of its source", sampling clearance should not be required. In doing so, the court broke from decades of established sample practice by ruling that all samples, regardless of how heavily manipulated or unrecognizable they may be, are subject either to ?clearance? (obtaining permission for use of the sample, usually in exchange for money) or litigation. To protest this decision, we are creating a forum for sample-based musicians and artists to share their own 30 second songs which have been created using only the sample in question. By doing so, we hope to showcase the potential and diversity of sample based music and sound art, and to call into question the relationship between a sample and its use. All submissions to the compilation will be posted on the 3 Notes and Runnin' site as they are received. The project (along with more info) can be found at: http://downhillbattle.org/3notes/ :: m i k e From stalliongsta at yahoo.com Mon Sep 27 13:07:14 2004 From: stalliongsta at yahoo.com (stAllio! the original wanksta) Date: Mon Sep 27 12:07:18 2004 Subject: [Rumori] "the yes men" on npr Message-ID: <20040927190714.77570.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> i just caught a long interview with one of the yes men (they who impersonated the WTO) on NPR's "fresh air". apparently the yes men have a new movie and book out. according to their site, the movie is already showing in NY and LA, and will open in several more cities on friday. http://www.theyesmen.org/ if you want to hear the interview, it should show up on npr.org before long. ===== "I prefer the impersonality of email." -drbmd http://www.animalswithinanimals.com http://badtastesucks.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From stalliongsta at yahoo.com Mon Sep 27 14:16:53 2004 From: stalliongsta at yahoo.com (stAllio! the original wanksta) Date: Mon Sep 27 13:16:58 2004 Subject: [Rumori] test Message-ID: <20040927201654.16976.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> hello? is this list broken yet again? ===== "I prefer the impersonality of email." -drbmd http://www.animalswithinanimals.com http://badtastesucks.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From das at ubuibi.org Tue Sep 7 08:53:30 2004 From: das at ubuibi.org (das) Date: Mon Sep 27 21:27:35 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Re: smirky: track two (now available) References: <001501c49469$19f9e160$0200a8c0@home> Message-ID: <413D682D.D3EE2F3@ubuibi.org> > for our more politically minded friends.... > > Big City Orchestra: SMIRKY > > download a new mp3 every week > until November 2nd > > track two: smash > > > ttp://ubuibi.org/mp3/smash.mp3....................................................... > > bigCityOrchestra web: www.ubuibi.org From ubuweb at yahoo.com Wed Sep 22 07:48:11 2004 From: ubuweb at yahoo.com (UbuWeb) Date: Mon Sep 27 21:27:56 2004 Subject: [Rumori] U B U W E B :: Recent Additions Fall 2004 Message-ID: <20040922134812.87422.qmail@web10808.mail.yahoo.com> __ U B U W E B __ http://ubu.com Fall 2004 Featured Resources Gertrude Stein's "Geogrpahy and Plays" In an ongoing celebration of the roughly 100th anniversary of Gertrude Stein's Geography and Plays, softpalate (www.softpalate.org) has matched various sound artists (audio artists, performance artists, soundtext artists, composers, radio producers, soundpoets, DJ's, re-mix artists, turntablists, etc.) with texts from Geography and Plays. Included here are the first five plays as realized by Warren Burt, John Wanzel, Students from Bella Vista Elementary School and David Braden, and Fadladder. (MP3) "Artsounds" Rare out-of-print double LP from 1985 of artists' recordings. Includes tracks by Larry Rivers, Marcel Duchamp, Connie Beckley, Cotten/Prince, Minneko Grimmer, Philemona Williamson, Jeff Gordon, Tony McAulay, Jonathan Borofsky, Les Levine, Burton Van Deusen, Tom Wesslemann, Marcy Brafman, Philip Johnson, John Burgee, Italo Scanga, Thomas Lanigan-Schmidt, Bob Gruen, Yura Adams, and Jennifer Bartlett. Includes extensive liner notes. (MP3) Stephen Vitiello "Collaborations and Unreleased MP3s" Stephen Vitiello is a composer of electronic music and media artist. He works in mediums ranging between installation, internet, video, film, dance and music for audio CD. Presented here are rare pieces and collaborations with Pauline Oliveros, Joe McPhee, Tony Conrad, Yasunao Tone and Scanner. People Like Us "Abridged Too Far" (2004) For the first time, UK-based People Like Us (Vicki Bennett) is releasing a new album exclusively online here on UbuWeb. "Abridged Too Far" is a collection of audio work first conceived through experimentation through or on radio. On this new collection, People Like Us continues its pastiche of impressions of popular music from Europe and America from the 1920s thru to 1990s. Vicki Bennett's work is an examination of the affect of hearing well known tunes and lyrics in fragments, then putting those elements to play-- resonating, intermingling and recombining with the listeners own associations and shards of memories. Full-color downloadable artwork and liner notes are available. "The 365 Days Project" UbuWeb is pleased to announce the re-launch and permanent home of curator Otis F. Odder's 365 Days Project. This legendary project, in which an MP3 a day -- of mostly outsider, novelty, and oddball recordings -- was made available for the public to download over the course of 2003. Briefly taken offline at the end of the project, it is now presented here in its entirety, complete with images and vast commentary on each selection. The 365 Days Project is part of UbuWeb's redesigned, newly-named and much expanded Outsiders section. Stan Brakhage "The Brakhage Lectures" (1972) Unavailable writings by filmmaker Stan Brakhage (1933-2003) who gave these lectures as a credit course at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago during the fall and early winter of 1970-71. Extended essays on George Méliès, David Wark Griffith, Carl Theodore Dreyer, and Sergei Eisenstein. The original program included screenings of forty-three films by Méliès, Griffith, Dreyer, Eisenstein, Cocteau and Edwin Porter. Includes an introduction by Robert Creeley. La Monte Young Marian Zazeela "Selected Writings" (1959-1969) Long out-of-print seminal writings and interviews by Young and Zazeela. First published by Heiner Friedrich in 1969 in an tiny edition. Includes "Notes On The Continuous Periodic Composite Sound Waveform Environment Realizations Of "Map Of 49's Dream The Two Systems Of Eleven Sets Of Galactic Intervals Ornamental Lightyears Tracery," "Dream House,"Conversation With La Monte Young By Richard Kostelanetz," The Soul Of The Word," "Lecture 1960," and "Poem To Diane." RECENT ADDITIONS :: FALL 2004 --- SOUND --- Airwaves, 1975 (MP3) Andreas Ammer / Ammer/Einheit / Ammer & Console - Various Radio Plays, 1993-2001 (MP3) Art By Telephone, Museum of Contemporary Art, Chicago, 1969 (MP3) Artsounds, 1985 (MP3) Caroline Bergvall - Recent Soundworks (MP3) Christian Bök - E U N O I A, 2001 (MP3) Jonathan Borofsky - The Radical Songbirds of Islam, 1984-87 (MP3) Cornelius Cardew - Memorial Concert, 1985 (MP3) Cornelius Cardew - BBC Radio Documentary (MP3) Louis-Ferdinand Céline - Songs and Readings, 1950s (MP3) Henning Christiansen - Requiem of Art (aus Celtic) (Fluxorum Organum II) (MP3) Dada for Now, 1985 (MP3) Hanne Darboven - Opus 17a, 1996 (MP3) Ed Dorn - Reads from "The North Atlantic Turbine", 1967 (MP3) Abbie Hoffman - Wake Up America!, 1969 (MP3) Jack Kerouac - Old Angel Midnight, read by Clark Coolidge and Michael Gizzi (1994) (MP3) Kuemmerling Trio - Mayer, Roth, Williams (1979) (MP3) Maurice Lemaître - Ouevres Poetiques et Musicales Lettristes, 1950-1971 (MP3) Sébastien Lespinasse - Ursonate and Other Works (2003) (MP3) Max Neuhaus - Electronics and Percussion (1968) (MP3) Max Neuhaus - Radio Net (1977) (MP3) People Like Us - Abridged Too Far, 2004 (MP3) Jane Philbrick - Audio 1998 - 2004 (MP3) Perfo2 - Catalogus Performance Festival (Holland, 1984) (MP3) Nicolas Slonimsky - History Making Premieres (MP3) Jean-Luc Godard - Interview with Serge Daney, French (early 1980s) (MP3) Stephen Vitiello - Various Sound Works (MP3) Robert Whitman - 4 Cinema Pieces (1968) (MP3) Jack Goldstein - Soundworks (1976-1984) (MP3) --- HISTORICAL--- David Antin - "Autobiography" (1967) [PDF] George Brecht - "Chance Imagery" (1966) [PDF] Stan Brakhage - "The Brakhage Lectures" (1972) Dick Higgins - "A Book About Love & Warh & Death, Canto One" (1965) [PDF] Allan Kaprow - "Untitled Essay and other works" (1967) [PDF] Bengt af Klintberg - "The Cursive Scandinavian Slave" (1967) [PDF] Jackson Mac Low - "The Twin Plays: Port-au-Prince & Adams County Illinois" (1966) [PDF] Manifetos from Giorno, Corner, Vostell, Paik, etc. (1966) [PDF] Claes Oldenburg -- "Injun and Other Histories" (1966) [PDF] Luigi Russolo - "The Art of Noise (1913/1967) [PDF] Wolf Vostell - "Berlin and Phenomena" (1966) [PDF] Emmett Williams -- "The Last French-Fried Potato and Other Poems" (1967) [PDF] La Monte Young & Marianne Zazeela - "Selected Writings" (1969) [PDF] "A Zaj Sampler" (1966) [PDF] Cornelius Cardew - "Stockhausen Serves Imperialism" (1974) Salvador Dali - "Conversations with Dali" (1965) Pablo Picasso - "A Picasso Sampler" __ U B U W E B __ http://ubu.com Apologies for cross-postings. Please forward. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From postalscale at yahoo.com Tue Sep 28 16:24:52 2004 From: postalscale at yahoo.com (Paul Smith) Date: Tue Sep 28 15:25:30 2004 Subject: [Rumori] test In-Reply-To: <20040927201654.16976.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040928222452.75815.qmail@web53507.mail.yahoo.com> I'll glom on and see if I can get through also. --- stAllio! the original wanksta wrote: > hello? is this list broken yet again? > > ===== > "I prefer the impersonality of email." -drbmd > http://www.animalswithinanimals.com > http://badtastesucks.com > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > ===== bibliothek-o-mathik __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From srooney at ntet.net Tue Sep 28 16:27:57 2004 From: srooney at ntet.net (srooney@ntet.net) Date: Tue Sep 28 15:28:03 2004 Subject: [Rumori] induce act Message-ID: <8790.216.104.211.5.1096410477.squirrel@216.104.211.5> I'm not overly familiar with the Induce Act, as described here: http://www.savebetamax.org/ On the surface, the Induce Act seems pretty obviously a Bad Thing. Is there anything I'm missing, or is it just what it seems, a power play by the MPAA and the RIAA? /sean From pl1x at earthlink.net Tue Sep 28 21:13:26 2004 From: pl1x at earthlink.net (PeterALopez) Date: Tue Sep 28 20:13:30 2004 Subject: [Rumori] induce act Message-ID: <18450792.1096427607443.JavaMail.root@daisy.psp.pas.earthlink.net> The first version was so broadly worded that technically the law if passed would have made the pencil "illegal". Because someone could potentially take that induceful implement of possible future copyright infringement and take it into a book store or library and copy a book word for word, then sell it. Thus the pencil manufacturers could have been targeted under the first version of the INDUCE Act for inducing copyright infringement. There have been several recommendations by both sides and revisions made and you can get those versions possibly from: http://www.corante.com/copyfight/ If you would like to watch the first Senate hearing on this act you can hopefully still get it from: http://p2pcongress.org/ which is an organization attempting to distribute Senate Hearing and such through Bit Torrent. PeterALopez -----Original Message----- From: srooney@ntet.net Sent: Sep 28, 2004 3:27 PM To: rumori@detritus.net Subject: [Rumori] induce act I'm not overly familiar with the Induce Act, as described here: http://www.savebetamax.org/ On the surface, the Induce Act seems pretty obviously a Bad Thing. Is there anything I'm missing, or is it just what it seems, a power play by the MPAA and the RIAA? /sean _______________________________________________ Rumori mailing list Rumori@detritus.net http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ From postconsumer01 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 29 19:54:14 2004 From: postconsumer01 at yahoo.com (Jon Nelson) Date: Wed Sep 29 18:54:20 2004 Subject: [Rumori] Hosler on Some Assembly Required Message-ID: <20040930015414.64679.qmail@web20527.mail.yahoo.com> hi rumori - in conjunction with Mark Hosler's presentation at this year's Sound Unseen in Minneapolis, I'll be doing an interview with him, and a feature on Some Assembly Required, this Saturday at 2PM. If you're in Minneapolis or surrounding area - come down to the Oak Street Cinema on Tuesday, October 5th at 7PM as well, to see his presentation. If not, just tune in to my show this Saturday (Oct 2) at radiok.org. thanks! Jon Nelson www.some-assembly-required.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail