From ddixon at wi.rr.com Tue Mar 1 05:35:25 2005 From: ddixon at wi.rr.com (David Dixon) Date: Tue Mar 1 05:36:15 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Beatallica update Message-ID: <15da01c51e63$86dca590$d2664c45@brw0901> I can't tell you much, legally, about what's been happening in the Beatallica camp. But I can tell you this: - even if you form an LLC, the individual members can all be defendants, individually, for copyright infringement, and their personal assets can be taken away. - Alan Korn is an insightful attorney, and he responds to emails promptly. - Downhill Battle will not respond to your repeated emails. - Xeni Jardin is a wonderful individual. - Trevor Wencl, who owns the domain name "beatallica.com", is also a wonderful individual. - Lots of people that you've never met will sign your petition, including well-known musicians (Brian Ritchie of the Violent Femmes among them) - The EFF are your friends, even if they can't take your case on because they're busy with Grokster. I and Jaymz are meeting with our lawyer here in Milwaukee later this week to discuss strategies. I don't know if you've ever been threatened with being sued for all you're worth, but I'll tell ya, it's alternately exhilirating ("Hell yeah! Fight the power!") and debilitating ("How am I going to pay the fucking rent?"). Also, I have a team of high-profile people on the internet ready and willing to organize and promote a Beatallica Legal Defense Fund, should the need arise. We might, also, have some anonymous contributors to our cause. D^2 From carrie at stayfreemagazine.org Tue Mar 1 07:47:41 2005 From: carrie at stayfreemagazine.org (Carrie McLaren) Date: Tue Mar 1 07:48:20 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Beatallica update In-Reply-To: <15da01c51e63$86dca590$d2664c45@brw0901> References: <15da01c51e63$86dca590$d2664c45@brw0901> Message-ID: > - Downhill Battle will not respond to your repeated emails. C'mon, man, those guys are swamped. You gotta give 'em break. As someone who has trouble answering e-mail myself, I can relate.... carrie From kembrew at kembrew.com Tue Mar 1 08:08:40 2005 From: kembrew at kembrew.com (kembrew mcleod) Date: Tue Mar 1 08:10:01 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Collage as Cultural Practice conference Message-ID: <2D945E0A-8A6C-11D9-8229-000D932EDAAE@kembrew.com> CONFERENCE: "COLLAGE AS CULTURAL PRACTICE" MARCH 24-26, 2005 Univ. of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa REGISTRATION IS FREE. ALL EVENTS ARE FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. The University of Iowa 2005 Obermann Humanities Symposium "Collage as Cultural Practice" will examine collage as a practice that enables oppositional commentary across the political and cultural spectrum. Twenty panels will address "Politics and Web Collage," "Feminist Politics and Collage," "The Beats and Situationists," "Post-Colonialism and Collage," "Cinematic Collage," "Collage Poetry," and "Collage and Copyright Law." Plenary Speakers: Patricia Zimmermann, Douglas Kahn, Rosemary Coombe, Carrie McLaren, Philo T. Farnsworth, Tom Forsythe, Joshua Clover, Craig Baldwin, Ximena Cuevas, Pierre Joris, Lloyd Dunn, and Steev Hise. Featured Performances: The Tape-beatles and Negativland's Mark Hosler. Organizers: Rudolf Kuenzli and Kembrew McLeod. Program at http://www.uiowa.edu/obermann/collage .................................. http://kembrew.com *************************** kembrew mcleod assistant professor department of communication studies university of iowa home contact info: 1037 e. washington st. iowa city, ia 52240 kembrew-mcleod@uiowa.edu 319-621-4620 "We are going to show a new side of him. The Hoff will surprise people with his rap skills." - Ice T, about David Hasselhoff's upcoming hip-hop album, which the rap veteran is producing. From pl1x at earthlink.net Tue Mar 1 11:06:39 2005 From: pl1x at earthlink.net (PeterALopez) Date: Tue Mar 1 11:07:17 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Beatallica update Message-ID: <21507188.1109704000075.JavaMail.root@dewey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> A brief "We cannot take this on at the moment", would sooth some of this. DHB seems to have spent their resources on blogtorrent, and I can only speculate, but maybe they we're expecting 'the people' to take on the work of Banned Music using the BlogT system. But only DHB has access to the official BM site, and Beatallica won't be in the spotlight forever. It's getting close to a year late but this is still ready to be published... http://www.noneinc.com/Archive/IDontExist/Finals/vvmtest_relax.php2.html (i'm doing this link from memory, sorry if i got the wrong link or made a typo... my site's banned at work.. yukyukyuk oh wait tis true...) [insert Facts of Life theme here] Just think about all the things Mr. Dixon can't tell us!!!!!! PeterALopez -----Original Message----- From: Carrie McLaren Subject: Re: [Rumori] Beatallica update > - Downhill Battle will not respond to your repeated emails. C'mon, man, those guys are swamped. You gotta give 'em break. As someone who has trouble answering e-mail myself, I can relate.... carrie From beatsystem at lineone.net Tue Mar 1 11:22:45 2005 From: beatsystem at lineone.net (Beatsystem) Date: Tue Mar 1 18:02:11 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Beatallica update References: <21507188.1109704000075.JavaMail.root@dewey.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <004001c51e94$19920440$6401a8c0@studio> > It's getting close to a year late but this is still ready to be > published... > http://www.noneinc.com/Archive/IDontExist/Finals/vvmtest_relax.php2.html > (i'm doing this link from memory, sorry if i got the wrong link or made a > typo... my site's banned at work.. yukyukyuk oh wait tis true Your memory for links is perfect, however, what actually happened to v/vm? Did they get C&D-ed for doing a Frankie cut-up? Your site text is evocative, and explains the background, but unless I'm not looking closely enough, I can't see what actually happened. Or is that the point? Ah well, fooled again... -- beat From ddixon at wi.rr.com Wed Mar 2 07:26:04 2005 From: ddixon at wi.rr.com (David Dixon) Date: Wed Mar 2 07:24:19 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Beatallica Message-ID: <17dd01c51f3c$26d77380$d2664c45@brw0901> I just got off the phone with a reporter from the Reuters news agency. I think it's safe to say that Beatallica's situation is going to be national news very shortly. D^2 Webmaster of Puppets From steev at detritus.net Wed Mar 2 15:12:43 2005 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Wed Mar 2 15:12:47 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Beatallica In-Reply-To: <17dd01c51f3c$26d77380$d2664c45@brw0901> Message-ID: on Wed, 2 Mar 2005 David Dixon told me: ->I just got off the phone with a reporter from the Reuters news agency. I ->think it's safe to say that Beatallica's situation is going to be national ->news very shortly. yup, here it is: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=musicNews&storyID=7789311 keep up the good work, David... smh Steev Hise | steev@detritus.net | http://detritus.net/steev my blog: http://steev.hise.org gpg public key: http://steev.hise.org/gpgkey.txt ----------------------------------------------------------------- "Never confuse fun with success". -Don Joyce ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pl1x at earthlink.net Wed Mar 2 20:22:58 2005 From: pl1x at earthlink.net (PeterALopez) Date: Wed Mar 2 20:23:09 2005 Subject: [Rumori] V/Vm was Beatallica update Message-ID: <18246370.1109823779136.JavaMail.root@statler.psp.pas.earthlink.net> What actually happened to v/vm? Did they get C&D-ed for doing a Frankie cut-up? Your site text is evocative, and explains the background, but unless I'm not looking closely enough, I can't see what actually happened. Or is that the point? Ah well, fooled again... beat PAL adds: At the time of writing everything was in flux. I'm not aware of an official explanation, but what i've gathered is that the C&D came down, so they pulled the offending item and there we're some discussions, and as with all things legalese, wording became very important and learning became difficult. I think in the end (and i'm not sure sure or sure) nothing came down but time and resources we're lost, at least a half a year probably more, while they waited for someone to make a decision. (several works we're put on hiatus) (there might have been a third party involved which clogged the pipes (two heads wanting the same pie)) Thus i believe V/Vm is focusing on their live performances, going as far as attempting to play in North Korea! In protest Goodiepal released a few rekkids having similar artwork to the Banned work... http://www.mdos.at/recorddetail.php?id=6166&md3c=72907ba42b33f8f5007cef9c7037ffa3 There was also a HelpV/Vm 7" but it came out before the lawsuit... so relax and look and ye might find. :///:///official/Mp3s:///////:///::: PeterALopez > It's getting close to a year late but this is still ready to be published... > http://www.noneinc.com/Archive/IDontExist/Finals/vvmtest_relax.php2.html From steev at detritus.net Thu Mar 3 06:16:05 2005 From: steev at detritus.net (steev@detritus.net) Date: Thu Mar 3 06:16:12 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: Lessig vs. 'the long tail' Message-ID: (((((((((((((( Detritus Update: Lessig vs. 'the long tail' )))))))))))))) March 03, 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://detritus.net/blog/archives/000319.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Long Tail is concept introduced by the editor of Wired Magazine about the markets of products and services and how there are "hits" and "niches." He keeps a blog about it, and the latest entry is about how this idea relates to Larry Lessig's ideas about free culture and copyright. -- Powered by Movable Type Version 2.661 http://www.movabletype.org/ From pl1x at earthlink.net Thu Mar 3 06:59:28 2005 From: pl1x at earthlink.net (PeterALopez) Date: Thu Mar 3 06:59:53 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: Lessig (ON TV TODAY) vs. 'the long tail' Message-ID: <5424958.1109861968815.JavaMail.root@ernie.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Lessig is on C-Span's Library of Congress' Digital Future program today: http://www.c-span.org/congress/digitalfuture.asp "Thursday, March 3 at 6:30pm ET Lawrence Lessig, professor of law at Stanford Law School and founder of the Stanford Center for Internet and Society Lessig is the author of "Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace" and an expert on the issues of copyright and "copyleft." He is the inventor of the revolutionary concept and application Creative Commons, which invites the right to use material under specific conditions." via waxy.org -----Original Message----- From: steev@detritus.net Sent: Mar 3, 2005 9:16 AM To: Cc: rumori@detritus.net Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: Lessig vs. 'the long tail' (((((((((((((( Detritus Update: Lessig vs. 'the long tail' )))))))))))))) March 03, 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://detritus.net/blog/archives/000319.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Long Tail is concept introduced by the editor of Wired Magazine about the markets of products and services and how there are "hits" and "niches." He keeps a blog about it, and the latest entry is about how this idea relates to Larry Lessig's ideas about free culture and copyright. -- Powered by Movable Type Version 2.661 http://www.movabletype.org/ _______________________________________________ Rumori mailing list Rumori@detritus.net http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ From ddixon at wi.rr.com Thu Mar 3 08:08:13 2005 From: ddixon at wi.rr.com (David Dixon) Date: Thu Mar 3 08:06:30 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Beatallica on MTV News References: Message-ID: <19d201c5200b$343eff00$d2664c45@brw0901> Yesterday it was Reuters, today it's MTV News who I just got off the phone with. Meeting with the lawyer this afternoon. This might be over by the end of the day. D^2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steev Hise" To: "Detritus discussion list." Cc: "Snuggles" Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [Rumori] Beatallica > on Wed, 2 Mar 2005 David Dixon told me: > > ->I just got off the phone with a reporter from the Reuters news agency. I > ->think it's safe to say that Beatallica's situation is going to be > national > ->news very shortly. > > yup, here it is: > http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=musicNews&storyID=7789311 > > keep up the good work, David... > > > smh > > > Steev Hise | steev@detritus.net | http://detritus.net/steev > my blog: http://steev.hise.org > gpg public key: http://steev.hise.org/gpgkey.txt > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > "Never confuse fun with success". > -Don Joyce > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ From djbatman at olografix.org Fri Mar 4 07:04:57 2005 From: djbatman at olografix.org (Nicola Battista) Date: Fri Mar 4 07:05:39 2005 Subject: R: [Rumori] Beatallica update In-Reply-To: <15da01c51e63$86dca590$d2664c45@brw0901> Message-ID: <00f801c520cb$87fcd1b0$0300a8c0@DJBATMAN> David, please show this to your lawyers (from the Harry Fox Agency website): http://www.harryfox.com/public/infoFAQDigitalLicensing.jsp "Oh no! I offered a download of me performing a cover on my website. Is it too late for me to pay now?" "You should immediately remove the file until it is properly licensed. Once it is, you can make retroactive payments for the limited time that it was up illegally." While I still think there is the "parody" issue in this case, suppose that we consider the songs simply as medleys of Beatles and Metallica. I think the "injury" this publisher had was ridiculous. But if the above part is true, I think one should go for a HFA license and pay retroactively (probably a few hundreds of $) and then the "injury" would disappear completely... avoiding bigger fees for copyright infringments. see also: http://www.harryfox.com/public/licenseeServicesDigital.jsp http://www.harryfox.com/docs/newMediaApplication.pdf ...this of course could be considered as a "last chance" thing. Nicola DjB From illegalart at detritus.net Fri Mar 4 09:33:50 2005 From: illegalart at detritus.net (illegal art) Date: Fri Mar 4 09:33:56 2005 Subject: R: [Rumori] Beatallica update In-Reply-To: <00f801c520cb$87fcd1b0$0300a8c0@DJBATMAN> Message-ID: I've been thinking about this angle as well. Because covering a song is a mechanical license, it is easy to obtain and I think you only pay based on sales. Someone must know more about this than I do. What are the llimitations on what can be considered a cover? As long as it fits their definition of a cover, can they deny you the license? Philo On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Nicola Battista wrote: > David, please show this to your lawyers (from the Harry Fox Agency > website): > > http://www.harryfox.com/public/infoFAQDigitalLicensing.jsp > > "Oh no! I offered a download of me performing a cover on my website. Is > it too late for me to pay now?" > > "You should immediately remove the file until it is properly licensed. > Once it is, you can make retroactive payments for the limited time that > it was up illegally." > > While I still think there is the "parody" issue in this case, suppose > that we consider the songs simply as medleys of Beatles and Metallica. > > I think the "injury" this publisher had was ridiculous. But if the above > part is true, I think one should go for a HFA license and pay > retroactively (probably a few hundreds of $) and then the "injury" would > disappear completely... avoiding bigger fees for copyright infringments. > > see also: > http://www.harryfox.com/public/licenseeServicesDigital.jsp > http://www.harryfox.com/docs/newMediaApplication.pdf > > ...this of course could be considered as a "last chance" thing. > > Nicola DjB > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > From kembrew at kembrew.com Fri Mar 4 11:52:38 2005 From: kembrew at kembrew.com (kembrew mcleod) Date: Fri Mar 4 11:53:51 2005 Subject: R: [Rumori] Beatallica update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: the trouble with the statutory or compulsory license is that it implicitly allows you to cover a song without asking for permission -- AS LONG AS YOU DON'T ALTER IT SIGNIFICANTLY, particularly the lyrics, but also the melody. what counts as altering is muddy, which is where the chilling effects come in. so, for instance, Guthrie's copyright holder, TRO, regularly denies permission to recording artists who want to update or alter his folk songs. best, kembrew On Mar 4, 2005, at 11:33 AM, illegal art wrote: > I've been thinking about this angle as well. Because covering a song > is a > mechanical license, it is easy to obtain and I think you only pay > based on > sales. > > Someone must know more about this than I do. What are the > llimitations on > what can be considered a cover? As long as it fits their definition > of a > cover, can they deny you the license? > > Philo > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Nicola Battista wrote: > >> David, please show this to your lawyers (from the Harry Fox Agency >> website): >> >> http://www.harryfox.com/public/infoFAQDigitalLicensing.jsp >> >> "Oh no! I offered a download of me performing a cover on my website. >> Is >> it too late for me to pay now?" >> >> "You should immediately remove the file until it is properly licensed. >> Once it is, you can make retroactive payments for the limited time >> that >> it was up illegally." >> >> While I still think there is the "parody" issue in this case, suppose >> that we consider the songs simply as medleys of Beatles and Metallica. >> >> I think the "injury" this publisher had was ridiculous. But if the >> above >> part is true, I think one should go for a HFA license and pay >> retroactively (probably a few hundreds of $) and then the "injury" >> would >> disappear completely... avoiding bigger fees for copyright >> infringments. >> >> see also: >> http://www.harryfox.com/public/licenseeServicesDigital.jsp >> http://www.harryfox.com/docs/newMediaApplication.pdf >> >> ...this of course could be considered as a "last chance" thing. >> >> Nicola DjB >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rumori mailing list >> Rumori@detritus.net >> http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori >> older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > .................................. http://kembrew.com *************************** kembrew mcleod assistant professor department of communication studies university of iowa home contact info: 1037 e. washington st. iowa city, ia 52240 kembrew-mcleod@uiowa.edu 319-621-4620 "We are going to show a new side of him. The Hoff will surprise people with his rap skills." - Ice T, about David Hasselhoff's upcoming hip-hop album, which the rap veteran is producing. From djbatman at olografix.org Fri Mar 4 12:49:24 2005 From: djbatman at olografix.org (Nicola Battista) Date: Fri Mar 4 12:50:02 2005 Subject: R: R: [Rumori] Beatallica update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <015401c520fb$a6250010$0300a8c0@DJBATMAN> in Italy and other european countries we have a strong division between economic and "moral" rights when talking about authors' rights. Moral rights cannot be sold to anyone, while you can always give away for free copies of your work and renounce to any economic right, or you can license, even sell 100% of your rights to someone else. But still we are talking only of monetary rights, not moral rights such as the right to modify the original work, paternity, the use of a pseudonym or publishing the work as an "anonymous" work. Now I am not sure whether or not this clearly exists in US law; I remember an electronic version of Beatles snogs with loads of samples from other artists blocked in 1990 here in Italy apparently under requests from some Beatles members; and also Oasis, in UK, while allowing a lounge cover of "Wonderwall" by Mike Flowers Pops, denied permission for a reggae cover of the same title, if I'm not wrong. Now this type of stuff - at least in Italy - is allowed only to authors; a publisher shouldn't allowed to say "you cannot do trash metal covers of Beatles" just because a publisher should have no title over moral rights. Is there anything like this in the American system? Kembrew, I remember that thing about Guthrie... but if I'm not wrong, TRO is also the publisher who basically stole Solomon Linda's copyright in "Mbube" when publishing "Wimoweh" that later became "The lion sleeps tonight"). So maybe TRO is not the best example out there. ;) DjB From praemedia at yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 13:08:47 2005 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Fri Mar 4 13:09:22 2005 Subject: R: R: [Rumori] Beatallica update In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050304210847.59463.qmail@web51610.mail.yahoo.com> There are no 'moral rights' in copyright law in the US, though the 'moral rights' laws in European copyright law are rather interesting. I'm pretty convinced they create a big mess, but it is a very different take on the rights of the writer (of music only) than we have in the U.S. --- Nicola Battista wrote: > in Italy and other european countries we have a > strong division between > economic and "moral" rights when talking about > authors' rights. > Moral rights cannot be sold to anyone, while you can > always give away > for free copies of your work and renounce to any > economic right, or you > can license, even sell 100% of your rights to > someone else. But still we > are talking only of monetary rights, not moral > rights such as the right > to modify the original work, paternity, the use of a > pseudonym or > publishing the work as an "anonymous" work. > Now I am not sure whether or not this clearly exists > in US law; I > remember an electronic version of Beatles snogs with > loads of samples > from other artists blocked in 1990 here in Italy > apparently under > requests from some Beatles members; and also Oasis, > in UK, while > allowing a lounge cover of "Wonderwall" by Mike > Flowers Pops, denied > permission for a reggae cover of the same title, if > I'm not wrong. > Now this type of stuff - at least in Italy - is > allowed only to authors; > a publisher shouldn't allowed to say "you cannot do > trash metal covers > of Beatles" just because a publisher should have no > title over moral > rights. Is there anything like this in the American > system? > > Kembrew, I remember that thing about Guthrie... but > if I'm not wrong, > TRO is also the publisher who basically stole > Solomon Linda's copyright > in "Mbube" when publishing "Wimoweh" that later > became "The lion sleeps > tonight"). So maybe TRO is not the best example out > there. ;) > > DjB > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ From praemedia at yahoo.com Fri Mar 4 12:10:41 2005 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Fri Mar 4 13:11:31 2005 Subject: R: [Rumori] Beatallica update In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050304201042.41772.qmail@web51605.mail.yahoo.com> Compulsory licenses cannot be denied. No permission is needed (only payment) and the original writer (or current copyright holder) has no say in the final product or in the price that has to be paid. There are no qualifiers on the 'Compulsory'. lance --- kembrew mcleod wrote: > the trouble with the statutory or compulsory license > is that it > implicitly allows you to cover a song without asking > for permission -- > AS LONG AS YOU DON'T ALTER IT SIGNIFICANTLY, > particularly the lyrics, > but also the melody. > > what counts as altering is muddy, which is where the > chilling effects > come in. so, for instance, Guthrie's copyright > holder, TRO, regularly > denies permission to recording artists who want to > update or alter his > folk songs. > > best, > > kembrew > > On Mar 4, 2005, at 11:33 AM, illegal art wrote: > > > I've been thinking about this angle as well. > Because covering a song > > is a > > mechanical license, it is easy to obtain and I > think you only pay > > based on > > sales. > > > > Someone must know more about this than I do. What > are the > > llimitations on > > what can be considered a cover? As long as it > fits their definition > > of a > > cover, can they deny you the license? > > > > Philo > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Nicola Battista wrote: > > > >> David, please show this to your lawyers (from the > Harry Fox Agency > >> website): > >> > >> > http://www.harryfox.com/public/infoFAQDigitalLicensing.jsp > >> > >> "Oh no! I offered a download of me performing a > cover on my website. > >> Is > >> it too late for me to pay now?" > >> > >> "You should immediately remove the file until it > is properly licensed. > >> Once it is, you can make retroactive payments for > the limited time > >> that > >> it was up illegally." > >> > >> While I still think there is the "parody" issue > in this case, suppose > >> that we consider the songs simply as medleys of > Beatles and Metallica. > >> > >> I think the "injury" this publisher had was > ridiculous. But if the > >> above > >> part is true, I think one should go for a HFA > license and pay > >> retroactively (probably a few hundreds of $) and > then the "injury" > >> would > >> disappear completely... avoiding bigger fees for > copyright > >> infringments. > >> > >> see also: > >> > http://www.harryfox.com/public/licenseeServicesDigital.jsp > >> > http://www.harryfox.com/docs/newMediaApplication.pdf > >> > >> ...this of course could be considered as a "last > chance" thing. > >> > >> Nicola DjB > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rumori mailing list > >> Rumori@detritus.net > >> http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > >> older archives: > http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rumori mailing list > > Rumori@detritus.net > > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > > older archives: > http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > > > > > .................................. > http://kembrew.com > *************************** > kembrew mcleod > assistant professor > department of communication studies > university of iowa > > home contact info: > 1037 e. washington st. > iowa city, ia 52240 > kembrew-mcleod@uiowa.edu > 319-621-4620 > > "We are going to show a new side of him. The Hoff > will surprise people > with his rap skills." - Ice T, about David > Hasselhoff's upcoming > hip-hop album, which the rap veteran is producing. > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From djbatman at olografix.org Fri Mar 4 14:08:28 2005 From: djbatman at olografix.org (Nicola Battista) Date: Fri Mar 4 14:09:05 2005 Subject: R: R: R: [Rumori] Beatallica update In-Reply-To: <20050304210847.59463.qmail@web51610.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <016d01c52106$b1f019b0$0300a8c0@DJBATMAN> the big mess with moral rights is simply this, in my opinion: while it seems logic that an author is allowed to block an interpretation/modification of a song, for example, in my opinion the fact that a performer/arranger/remixer wants to create a new version of the original work might be some type of moral right too. In other words: is it fair to block that guy who wanted to do a reggae cover of Oasis or the guy who mixes Beatles and Metallica? didn't he have the (moral) right to "express" his own, personal vision of another author's work? Nicola DjB From djbatman at olografix.org Fri Mar 4 14:21:16 2005 From: djbatman at olografix.org (Nicola Battista) Date: Fri Mar 4 14:21:52 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Beatallica and more on compulsory licenses and Sony/ATV In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <016e01c52108$7b889210$0300a8c0@DJBATMAN> also, this type of license is compulsory and follows the rules established by HFA; and if HFA doesnt license certain tracks, I know that it should still be possible to license them via the copyright office in the US. Or else, move the server to another country and for example apply with another society. I have heard that italian agency SIAE has some type of relatively cheap license for indie artists or small indie labels, and this differs from the commercial site license which has huge costs (like 7% of site revenue). According to the HFA site you also pay for free d/l, this means they must have some option for free sites like artist homepages, otherwise how could you calculate a fee based on nonexisting sales? Also, there is another factor to consider: the tracks are not covers of single cover songs, but apparently (I only have heard one track) they're medleys. This means the statutory royalty will be splitted in smaller parts, probably; now take the track I've heard... it's called "No remorseful reply" and apparently looks like Metallica's "No remorse" plus Beatles' "No reply". Not sure if there is any original or other material in there (I listened to that track only once and I'm not a huge Metallica fan). Now suppose that this track is a 50/50 medley of the two songs. This means Sony/ATV only has 50% of that compulsory royalty of 8,5 cents; the rest if for the publishers of Lars & co. from the ASCAP (www.ascap.com/ace) website: NO REMORSE (Title Code: 440171619) Writers: HETFIELD JAMES ALAN ULRICH LARS Performers: METALLICA Variations: NO REMORSE HETFIELD ULRICH Publishers/Administrators: CREEPING DEATH MUSIC C/O DEBRA MACCULLOCH KING, PURTICH, HOLMES, PATERNO & BERLINER 1900 AVENUE OF THE STARS SUITE 2500 LOS ANGELES, CA, 90067 Tel. (310) 282-8989 But if you look at songfile.com, you'll also discover that Sony/ATV only controls 66,66% of publishing rights in "No reply" (and I bet most of the other Beatles songs have similar splits): --- Mechanical License Request - Restricted Quantities HFA Song Code: N58410 Song Title: NO REPLY Song Writer: LENNON, MCCARTNEY We can provide you with 100.00% of the license for this song. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- Publisher Detail Split Rep. by HFA? SONY/ATV TUNES LLC D/B/A ATV (NORTHERN SONGS CATALOG) 66.66% Y EMI BLACKWOOD MUSIC COLLECTING AGENT-LENNON/MCCARTNEY WRITERS 33.34% Y --- this means Sony/ATV potentially owns only a minority percentage of this Beatallica track. Now suppose that in the Beatallica tracks there is also original material, say 5-10% of original lyrics/music. If I was the author of these, I would register these original bits with the proper agencies. This would result in lowering even more Sony/ATV's potential percentage. What I am trying to say is that not only the "injury" can be cancelled with a compulsory license, but also that Sony/ATV's damage is even lower if you consider they don't even control HALF of the music and lyrics in each Beatallica track. regards, Nicola DjB From carrie at stayfreemagazine.org Fri Mar 4 16:48:10 2005 From: carrie at stayfreemagazine.org (Carrie McLaren) Date: Fri Mar 4 16:48:51 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Warner Brothers pulls plug on Wizard People Message-ID: hello, here are a few IP-related stories from my blog this week that might interest some of you: WARNER BROTHERS CANCELS HARRY POTTER SPINOFF Warner Brothers, which owns the rights to the Harry Potter movies, has pulled the plug on screenings of "Wizard People, Dear Reader" scheduled to take place here in New York and in Boston this weekend. Each theater had rented a print of Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone, which they had planned to screen with the volume off while Brad Neely (who created Wizard People) narrated. But when the powers that be at Warner Bros. found out, they called the theaters and made them cancel. http://stayfree.typepad.com/stayfree/2005/03/another_one_bit.html BILL O'REILLY IS AT IT AGAIN You'd think Bill O'Reilly and his goons would have learned something after the disaster of a lawsuit against Al Franken. But no, the company that syndicates O'Reilly's column, is trying to bully a weblog into removing links to an O'Reilly column, under the guise of copyright violation. That's right: Creators Syndicate has sent a cease and desist letter to Newshounds for merely linking to this column. According to Lawrence Lessig, these threats have no basis in the law, thanks to a Ticketmaster ruling concluding that Hypertext Linking does not violate Copyright. Inspired by this brouhaha, we were going to suggest that bloggers out there to find an O'Reilly column you really, really hate and link to it. But apparently Creators Synidicate has been so successful in keeping O'Reilly's past columns offline (they're available only to paid subscribers from O'Reilly's website) that we can't find many. So here's the offending link again. Enjoy. http://stayfree.typepad.com/stayfree/2005/03/bill_oreilly_is.html JEFFERSON STARBUCKS Also worth noting is this parody of Jefferson Starship's "We built this city," which Starbucks' upper management performed at a recent motivational ceremony. As one reader noted, it's irony that the suits feel free to parody others' works but when Keiron Dwyer parodied Starbucks logo on his comic book, they sued. http://stayfree.typepad.com/stayfree/2005/03/jefferson_starb.html -- Carrie McLaren Editor, Stay F---! tel: 718 398 9324 www.stayfreemagazine.org www.illegal-art.org From steev at detritus.net Mon Mar 7 18:27:55 2005 From: steev at detritus.net (steev@detritus.net) Date: Mon Mar 7 18:28:04 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: Who Owns Little Cheburashka? Message-ID: ((((((((((((( Detritus Update: Who Owns Little Cheburashka? ))))))))))))) March 08, 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The fascinating story of a cute little cartoon character from Russia who has become very popular in Japan, only to meet with some legal objections from the creator about who has the right to distribute and merchandise. A sort of... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://detritus.net/blog/archives/000324.html -- Powered by Movable Type Version 2.661 http://www.movabletype.org/ From raymondbaal at yahoo.co.uk Tue Mar 8 09:14:43 2005 From: raymondbaal at yahoo.co.uk (Raymond Baal) Date: Tue Mar 8 10:15:20 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Re: Rumori Digest, Vol 23, Issue 5 Message-ID: <20050308171444.84458.qmail@web25103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> As far as I understand the law in both UK and USA on this matter, a publisher cannot refuse a cover version provided that there's no messing with the original composition. I suppose there could be a way to say that a thrash meta version had altered the arrangement but, generally, once you publish something, it's out there. You're allowed to collect royalties on it and stop advertisers covering it (with new lyrics) but you can't control what happens with your 'publication'. Ray 'I think I'm right in saying' Baal Nicola Battista wrote: Oasis, in UK, while allowing a lounge cover of "Wonderwall" by Mike Flowers Pops, denied permission for a reggae cover of the same title, if I'm not wrong. Now this type of stuff - at least in Italy - is allowed only to authors; a publisher shouldn't allowed to say "you cannot do trash metal covers of Beatles" just because a publisher should have no title over moral rights. Is there anything like this in the American system? 'Contained in a transcendental idealism, X$X is only readable through its representing other which hence becomes its symbol.' Michael K, 1997 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From ddixon at wi.rr.com Sun Mar 13 03:32:21 2005 From: ddixon at wi.rr.com (David Dixon) Date: Sun Mar 13 03:32:58 2005 Subject: [Rumori] viva Beatallica Message-ID: <004701c527c0$52c0fa70$d2664c45@brw0901> Sony is not going to pursue legal action against Beatallica, according to Peter Paterno, one of Metallica's lawyers, who negotiated with them on our behalf. We will be sending Sony a "confirmation memo" on Monday to assure this. Once that memo is confirmed, beatallica.org and all of its content will go back up, and we will continue as before. We've also been invited to speak at the upcoming Berkman Center symposium, "Signal or Noise II," which will address mashups, collage, and other transformative ways that consumers become creators. The first "Signal or Noise" proceedings can be found here: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/netmusic.html So yes, we've gotten a lot of free publicity (and thereby, a lot of new fans), but now the real work begins. Beatallica got lucky by having a high-profile band & lawyer on their side, but what about GABBA (http://www.gabba.co.uk/) or The Misfats (http://www.misfats.com/), or any number of tribute bands not yet on the internet? Our battle has resulted in a truce for now, but the battle for the right to freely remix popular culture continues. D^2 Webmaster of Puppets (not speaking for Beatallica, for obvious reasons) From stalliongsta at yahoo.com Tue Mar 15 10:00:25 2005 From: stalliongsta at yahoo.com (stAllio! the original wanksta) Date: Tue Mar 15 11:01:02 2005 Subject: [Rumori] beatallica on npr Message-ID: <20050315180025.36765.qmail@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> i happened to be in the car just now and heard a segment on npr's "day to day" about beatallica. it had soundbites from jaymz, krk, david dixon, and even lars ulrich, plus excerpts from at least 2-3 beatallica songs. there's nothing on the npr site about it yet, but i'm sure it'll show up shortly. those of you out west might still have a chance to hear it broadcast; otherwise when it shows up on npr.org you'll be able to listen then. --- "Oh no! It's not that Bobby Vomit guy again is it?" subscribe to awiannounce, the st!/awia announce list: http://www.animalswithinanimals.com/mailman/listinfo/awiannounce see also: http://www.animalswithinanimals.com don't forget: http://badtaste4life.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From jima at legnog.com Tue Mar 15 10:05:46 2005 From: jima at legnog.com (James Allenspach) Date: Tue Mar 15 11:07:31 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Re: [Snuggles] beatallica on npr In-Reply-To: <20050315180025.36765.qmail@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20050315180546.0E67A17EF@one.textdrive.com> On 3/15/2005, "stAllio!the original wanksta" wrote: >there's nothing on the npr site about it yet, but i'm sure it'll show >up shortly. You were right! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4533853 jma From ddixon at wi.rr.com Tue Mar 15 20:04:25 2005 From: ddixon at wi.rr.com (David Dixon) Date: Tue Mar 15 20:05:32 2005 Subject: [Rumori] slight correction re: beatallica Message-ID: <008301c529dd$3e837140$6401a8c0@brw0901> The case has not just "been dropped"; we still need to confirm it with Sony. According to Peter Paterno, they're not going to sue, but we still have to hear it from Sony themselves before we'll put the site back up. Hopefully that won't take long. We're trying to be really really careful about this, y'know? D^2 Webmaster of Puppets From bbrace at eskimo.com Wed Mar 16 07:13:03 2005 From: bbrace at eskimo.com ({ brad brace }) Date: Wed Mar 16 07:46:09 2005 Subject: [Rumori] bbs In-Reply-To: <008301c529dd$3e837140$6401a8c0@brw0901> References: <008301c529dd$3e837140$6401a8c0@brw0901> Message-ID: bbs: brad brace sound >> now with over 133 hours of shuffled ambient soundscapes! http://63.170.215.11:8000 http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/undisclosed.html /:b From ddixon at wi.rr.com Thu Mar 17 13:00:11 2005 From: ddixon at wi.rr.com (David Dixon) Date: Thu Mar 17 13:00:44 2005 Subject: [Rumori] "Bunnyrabbits, Satan, Cheese and Milk" video Message-ID: <015a01c52b34$4fc71cb0$6401a8c0@brw0901> A few weeks ago a German filmmaker named Ceven (who goes by the name Mojomoyo) asked me if she could use one of my Stark Effect songs in a film she was making. I said, "hell yeah!" Well, here it is: http://www.mojomoyo.com/ds_1.html D^2 http://stark-effect.com From steev at detritus.net Fri Mar 18 11:53:21 2005 From: steev at detritus.net (Steev Hise) Date: Fri Mar 18 11:53:27 2005 Subject: [Rumori] rumorites at Collage Conference Message-ID: hey all, Just wondering if anyone on this list that i don't know about is going to come to the Collage Conference at the University of Iowa next week. I think it might be fun to have a little rumori/detritus teatime or something sometime during the festivities. rumori members and detrivores that i already know will be there: me philo carrie mclaren kembrew (of course) tom forsythe the Tape-beatles i can't remember if mark hosler is on this list but he'll be there too. so, anybody else within a day's drive of Iowa City who can call in sick at work, come on down! it's gonna be a blast! c'mon! the info: http://www.uiowa.edu/obermann/collage Oh and if you are coming, and you're there by wednesday night, there's another chance to see the tape-beatles (they're playing friday night too as part of the conference, but, i understand, a different "set"), half an hour north of Iowa City in Cedar Rapids (my birthplace!): http://www.legionarts.org/music/mar.htm#Tape-beatles (what wonderful pictures of Lloyd and John, no?) that is all. let me know if you're comin'. i'll bake a big detritus cake. smh Steev Hise | steev@detritus.net | http://detritus.net/steev Donate to the Computers for Bolivia Project: http://villaingenio.org/computers/donate.html blog: http://steev.hise.org | gpg public key: http://steev.hise.org/gpgkey.txt ----------------------------------------------------------------- "It's so hard to begin at the beginning, and not go further back." -Dick Hebdige ----------------------------------------------------------------- From valyi at mokk.bme.hu Fri Mar 18 17:02:50 2005 From: valyi at mokk.bme.hu (valyi@mokk.bme.hu) Date: Fri Mar 18 17:49:20 2005 Subject: [Rumori] rumorites at Collage Conference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1111194170.423b7a3ad2b87@kelt.mokk.bme.hu> hey steve, I haven't really exposed much on the list although i've been enthusiastically following it for more than a year. will be there and giving a talk on Bartok Kodaly and collage. so count me in when it comes to getting the tea-time together. Gabor Valyi aka DJ Shuriken Quoting Steev Hise : > hey all, > > Just wondering if anyone on this list that i don't know about is > going to come to the Collage Conference at the University of Iowa > next week. I think it might be fun to have a little > rumori/detritus teatime or something sometime during the > festivities. > > rumori members and detrivores that i already know will be there: > > me > philo > carrie mclaren > kembrew (of course) > tom forsythe > the Tape-beatles > i can't remember if mark hosler is on this list but he'll be there too. > > so, anybody else within a day's drive of Iowa City who can call > in sick at work, come on down! > it's gonna be a blast! c'mon! > > the info: > http://www.uiowa.edu/obermann/collage > > Oh and if you are coming, and you're there by wednesday night, > there's another chance to see the tape-beatles (they're playing > friday night too as part of the conference, but, i understand, a > different "set"), half an hour north of Iowa City in Cedar Rapids (my > birthplace!): > > http://www.legionarts.org/music/mar.htm#Tape-beatles > (what wonderful pictures of Lloyd and John, no?) > > that is all. let me know if you're comin'. i'll bake a big > detritus cake. > > smh > > Steev Hise | steev@detritus.net | http://detritus.net/steev > Donate to the Computers for Bolivia Project: > http://villaingenio.org/computers/donate.html > blog: http://steev.hise.org | gpg public key: > http://steev.hise.org/gpgkey.txt > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > "It's so hard to begin at the beginning, and not go further back." > -Dick Hebdige > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rumori mailing list > Rumori@detritus.net > http://detritus.net/mailman/listinfo/rumori > older archives: http://detritus.net/contact/rumori/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From steev at detritus.net Sat Mar 19 09:55:35 2005 From: steev at detritus.net (steev@detritus.net) Date: Sat Mar 19 09:55:43 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: The Ransom Model Message-ID: ((((((((((((((((((( Detritus Update: The Ransom Model ))))))))))))))))))) March 19, 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Two designers of dice-driven roleplaying games are experimenting with a distribution/licensing/payment scheme they call the Ransom Model. Their new tactical wargame, Meatbot Massacre, will not be available for download until they've collected the $600 "ransom." If this target is not... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://detritus.net/blog/archives/000335.html -- Powered by Movable Type Version 2.661 http://www.movabletype.org/ From kembrew at kembrew.com Mon Mar 21 20:54:32 2005 From: kembrew at kembrew.com (kembrew mcleod) Date: Mon Mar 21 20:55:53 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Fwd: Important survey for artists Message-ID: <4e4353334ee6acaccc1b60d1d543b368@kembrew.com> in case you didn't see this... km Begin forwarded message: >> Dear Friends, >> >> Please take a few minutes to fill out this survey (see below) about >> copyright issues and your work. It's an important part of the fight >> for better policy that protects art, culture and creativity. >> >> Please also pass this request to other artists and relevant e-lists, >> especially if you know anyone who has had experience with fair use >> challenges, "cease and desist" letters and other copyright horror >> stories. >> >> Thanks!!! >> Liza >> >> Aliza Dichter >> CIMA: Center for International Media Action >> >> ================ >> >> Calling All Filmmakers, Writers, Culture-Jammers and all other >> Artists! >> >> The good folks at the Free Expression Policy Project (FEPP), part of >> the Brennan Center for Justice, are conducting a study to learn how >> well "fair use" - an important defense under U.S. copyright law - is >> working for artists of all kinds, including writers, filmmakers, >> "culture jammers" and other media producers. Fair use allows limited >> borrowing of copyright-protected works without permission, for >> purposes such as parody and commentary. >> >> This is an important issue -- copyright and fair use affect us all. >> >> Please help by going to the FEPP Web site and filling out their Fair >> Use Survey, at >> http://www.fepproject.org/fepp/fairusequest.html >> >> For a brief introduction, see >> http://www.fepproject.org/fepp/fairuseintro.html >> >> If you have any questions about the survey, please contact Marjorie >> Heins directly at the Brennan Center (HEINSM@juris.law.nyu.edu) >> >> Thanks. We hope that some positive policy changes can come out of >> this research. >> .................................. http://kembrew.com *************************** kembrew mcleod assistant professor department of communication studies university of iowa home contact info: 1037 e. washington st. iowa city, ia 52240 kembrew-mcleod@uiowa.edu 319-621-4620 "We are going to show a new side of him. The Hoff will surprise people with his rap skills." - Ice T, about David Hasselhoff's upcoming hip-hop album, which the rap veteran is producing. From rwild at 1-900-870-6235.com Tue Mar 22 07:49:29 2005 From: rwild at 1-900-870-6235.com (Ron Wild) Date: Tue Mar 22 09:37:36 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Copyright? Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20050322084643.0360fb20@mail.shawcable.com> >When you write copy you have the right to copyright the copy you write, if >the copy is right. If however, your copy falls over, you must right your >copy. If you write religious services you write rite, and have the right to >copyright the rite you write. > >Very conservative people write right copy, and have the right to copyright >the right copy they write. A right wing cleric would write right rite, and >has the right to copyright the right rite he has the right to write. His >editor has the job of making the right rite copy right before the copyright >can be right. > >Should Thom Wright decide to write right rite, then Wright would write right >rite, which Wright has the right to copyright. Duplicating that rite would >copy Wright right rite, and violate copyright, which Wright would have the >right to right. > >Right? From steev at detritus.net Wed Mar 23 05:59:06 2005 From: steev at detritus.net (steev@detritus.net) Date: Wed Mar 23 05:59:15 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Detritus Update: Indian Parliament Passes Horrible Patent Law Message-ID: ((((( Detritus Update: Indian Parliament Passes Horrible Patent Law ))))) March 23, 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Parliament in India has tightened up their country's patent law, which previously allowed cheap generic versions of AIDS drugs to be produced so that the poor could afford to be treated. "Under the new legislation we will see new medicines... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://detritus.net/blog/archives/000337.html -- Powered by Movable Type Version 2.661 http://www.movabletype.org/ From rick at cuechamp.com Wed Mar 23 12:18:00 2005 From: rick at cuechamp.com (rick silva) Date: Wed Mar 23 12:18:09 2005 Subject: [Rumori] working title Message-ID: <00dc01c52fe5$6a775970$2aa30818@VUK> new project up online / quicktime and sound up: http://www.cuechamp.com/working_title.htm werd, rick --------------- www.cuechamp.com From edspecial at digitalrealm.net Tue Mar 29 11:56:54 2005 From: edspecial at digitalrealm.net (ed special) Date: Tue Mar 29 11:57:01 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Internet File Sharing - CSPAN Message-ID: http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp? command=dprogram&record=542156300 rtsp://video.c-span.org/15days/wj032905_files.rm From pl1x at earthlink.net Wed Mar 30 03:28:29 2005 From: pl1x at earthlink.net (PeterALopez) Date: Wed Mar 30 03:28:43 2005 Subject: [Rumori] Internet File Sharing - CSPAN Message-ID: <6373048.1112182109608.JavaMail.root@thecount.psp.pas.earthlink.net> Here's a saveable (mp4) version courtesy of T. Barger of dmusic.com. http://news.dmusic.com/article/16370 There will hopefully be a torrent to spread this version (or a better one) farther. If it does, please seed. PeterALopez http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp? command=dprogram&record=542156300 rtsp://video.c-span.org/15days/wj032905_files.rm From ubuweb at yahoo.com Wed Mar 30 06:44:40 2005 From: ubuweb at yahoo.com (UbuWeb) Date: Wed Mar 30 06:45:24 2005 Subject: [Rumori] __ U B U W E B __ :: Spring 2005 Message-ID: <20050330144440.96913.qmail@web30415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> __ U B U W E B __ http://ubu.com -------------------------------------- Recent Additions :: Spring 2005 -------------------------------------- --- RECENT FEATURES --- * UbuWeb Films * UbuWeb announces the beta launch of its newest section of historic artist's films. In addition to the 37 short Fluxus films (see below), films can be viewed by Kenneth Anger, Luis Bunuel, John Cage, Guy Debord, Marcel Duchamp, Laszlo Moholy-Nagy, Robert Morris & Stan VanDerBeek, Isidore Isou, Man Ray, Robert Rauschenberg, Hans Richter, Harry Smith and Jack Smith. * 37 Short Fluxus Films (1962 - 1970) * Dating from the sixties and compiled by George Maciunas (1931-1978, founder of Fluxus), UbuWeb is pleased to present 37 short films ranging from 10 seconds to 10 minutes in length. These films (some of which were meant to be screened as continuous loops) were shown as part of the events and happenings of the New York avant-garde. Films by Nam June Paik, Dick Higgins, George Maciunas, Chieko Shiomi, John Cavanaugh, James Riddle, Yoko Ono, George Brecht, Robert Watts, Pieter Vanderbiek, Joe Jones, Eric Anderson, Jeff Perkins, Wolf Vostell, Albert Fine, George Landow, Paul Sharits, John Cale, Peter Kennedy, Mike Parr, Ben Vautier. Presented here in MPEG format. * Marshall McLuhan * UbuWeb is pleased to present two archival audio interviews with Marshall McLuhan (MP3): Marshall McLuhan on the Dick Cavett Show in December 1970 (30 minutes; along with Truman Capote and Chicago Bears running back, Gayle Sayers. Both Capote and Sayers participated in the discussion with McLuhan) and Speaking Freely hosted by Edwin Newman features Marshall McLuhan 4 Jan 1971 (one hour). UbuWeb also hosts an MP3 copy of McLuhan's out-of-print Columbia LP, The Medium is the Massage (Side A, Side B). * John Oswald's "Mystery Tapes" * An early collection (c. 1980) of unnamed audio samples and snippets. According to Oswald: "All known Xperience is potentially confounded by MYSTERY TAPES, little boxes of sonifericity specifically formulated for the curious listener. 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Kurt Schwitters original version; Canadian poet Christian Bök's rock 'n' roll version; two versions by the Dutch sound poet Jaap Blonk: one from 1986, one from 1993; Frenchman Sebastien Lespinasse's speed version; Japanese sound-poet Adachi Tomomi's version; Finnish collective Linnunlaulupuu's group version; and the Vancouver-based Ensemble Ordinature's computer voice version and the John Oswald-produced version by Christopher Butterfield. --- OTHER RECENT ADDITIONS --- Mick Jagger Soundtrack to Kenneth Anger's "Invocation Of My Demon Brother", 1969 (MP3) Eugene Ionesco Reads from his works, 1960s (MP3) FluxsweetWorks by Knowles, Higgins, Brecht, Jones, Miller (MP3) People Like Us The Sounds of Christmas, Tate Modern, 20044 (MP3) Ward Tietz Visual Sculptures Paul Dutton Mouth Pieces, 2000 (MP3) Christopher Butterfield Ursonate and other works, (MP3) Herbert Huncke From Dream to Dream, 1994 (MP3) Guy Debord "Le manque d'un avenir nécessaire" (lecture on Surrealism), 1957 (MP3) Ogden Nash The Fanciful World of Ogden Nash, early 1960s (MP3) Robin Kahn Sings Jesus Christ Superstar, 1991 (MP3) Marshall McLuhan Dick Cavett Appearance, 1970 (MP3) DJ Food Raiding the 20th Century - Words & Music Expansion (starring Paul Morley and a cast of thousands) (MP3) Bern Porter Finding Poetry after the Manhattan Project by Arlo Quint __ U B U W E B __ http://ubu.com Apologies for cross-postings. 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