Re: [rumori] soundmosaic


From: Chris Ball (ball2000ATball2000.com)
Date: Thu May 31 2001 - 09:11:20 PDT


The ideal makes you happy

P.S. How do I deal with this list?

P.P.S. Stop stealing my original ideas!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Harvey" <dghrvyAThotmail.com>
To: <rumoriATdetritus.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [rumori] soundmosaic

> The ideal copy is what you want
> When you won't, it makes you will
> The ideal copy makes you happy
> The ideal copy
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Chris Ball" <ball2000ATball2000.com>
> >Reply-To: rumoriATdetritus.net
> >To: <rumoriATdetritus.net>
> >Subject: Re: [rumori] soundmosaic
> >Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:56:31 -0700
> >
> >As told to Chris Ball by Deepak Chopra:
> > > 1. what is the nature of originality?
> >Original items have sources that have been mixed to the point of
> >untraceability. They have origins. All things have origins.
> >Or, wait a minute.
> >Original items can't be recognized until later. A new item can't be
> >original until it originates something else. Because things are only
> >original in stories. Are there original items that don't originate
> >anything
> >else?
> >
> >Nature?
> > Oh. Trick question. There is no nature in originality, it is a
> >cultural construct. It is a cult. It is a cult of personality. It is a
> >cult of individuality. It's a phase cultures pass into. They pass out.
> >Way to go. It is a story.
> >
> > Which forest is the most original. See?
> >
> >Source?
> >Untraceable?
> >New? ?
> >
> >
> > > 2. what's the difference between "original" and "unique"?
> >All items are unique. Not all items have sources that have been mixed to
> >the point of untraceability.
> >Item?
> >
> >We talk about copies. Copies aren't that different from things that
> >originated them. But they are different, even if it is only by being in
a
> >different place and time. If they weren't different, they wouldn't be
> >copies, they would still be originals. If they weren't different, then
the
> >copycat and the originator would be the same person. It would be hard to
> >tell who was making copies on the Internet.
> >
> > > 3. why do humans like this stuff so much?
> >Most don't.
> >Humans?
> >Most?
> >People in some cultures love to pretend that their things are new.
People
> >in some cultures love to pretend that their things are new and unique or
> >original or natural or fundamentally changed.
> >
> > > 4. is "copy culture" fundamentally the same as always (as
> > > it's been for centuries), or has technology fundamentally
> > > changed the kind of culture we produce?
> >Copy culture is faster than ever. It produces unique and original items
> >faster. The items are faster. They might be more or less original.
They
> >might be more or less unique. They are faster. Technology has
> >fundamentaly
> >copied the kind of culture we change. Art in the age of mechanical
> >reproduction - Walter Benjamin.
> >Fast?
> >Fundamental?
> >Culture?
> >Change?
> >Copy?
> >
> > > 5. are there "bad" appropriations, and what are they?
> >Bad appropriations are appropriations you don't like. You might not want
> >them. You say "go away." You say "this is unoriginal and bad." You get
> >others to say the same. You fight in a court of law. You fight in the
> >streets. You march. You carry signs that say "Bad." You tell everyone
> >the
> >names of the evildoers. You help them. You say "watch out!" You
encourage
> >them. Way to go.
> >Appropriation creates ownership via theft.
> >Originality denies that it is appropriation and creates ownership by
> >pickpocketing.
> >Ownership causes both. Way to go.
> >When you do either activity it makes something new and unique for you to
> >own.
> >But which activity, and which culture, determines how you feel about your
> >ownership. How you feel about the other's ownership. How you feel about
> >stealing and getting ripped off.
> >
> >You?
> >Like?
> >
> > >
> > > i could go on and on.
> >Please do! If you like.
> >
> >P.S.
> >What's the deal with this list? ;)
> >
> >
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