[Rumori] [[email protected]: [Irdial-list] Irdial Wilco and WEA Settle Spy Radio Sample Lawsuit]

Vicki Bennett peoplelikeus at mistral.co.uk
Mon Jun 21 16:21:57 PDT 2004


Was there something before this on Rumori?  Would like to know more 
about this case, seems very odd indeed.  You're saying Irdial sued WEA? 
  Even though they have put the Conet Project on the Internet Archive?  
Not to say the IA is royalty free, of course there is attribution 
needed in relevant cases and so on, but considering it's recordings of 
radio waves the whole suing seems out of character with the spirit of 
the thing.  Sort of like someone who records scanners in a very 
straight way then releasing that then suing someone.

Has the thread just been transferred across from the Irdial list?  
Please give us more info here.


On 21 Jun 2004, at 15:10, stAllio!the original wanksta wrote:

> --- niall munnelly <aleph at aleph-null.net> wrote:
>> The Conet Project is a historic collection of espionage "Numbers
>> Stations".
>> These Numbers Stations are found on the shortwave radio bands, and
>> are used
>> by
>> the CIA, MI5, MOSSAD and the rest of the world"s espionage agencies
>> to
>> communicate to their agents in the field.
> ...
>> By taking this sound from our release, tacking it onto the end of the
>> track
>> "Poor Places", and failing to obtain permission to release their CD
>> with our
>> sound on it, WEA International, an RIAA record label, infringed our
>> copyright.
>> It is only after the case was brought to the High Court of Justice in
>> London
>> that they have finally relented and have been pressured to, in their
>> own
>> words,
>> "reluctantly agree" to pay Irdial-Discs a royalty in perpetuity on a
>> worldwide
>> basis.
> but wouldn't the cia be the actual copyright holders in this case, not
> the conet project?  and wouldn't the conet project be actually
> violating the cia's copyright by recording these broadcasts in the
> first place?  i'm confused about where their "ownership" comes in.
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