Re: [rumori] Re: pho: limited times in the Internet world

From: Steev Hise (
Date: Wed Feb 21 2001 - 14:03:56 PST

On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, Don Joyce wrote:

>What's wrong with the moral rights system in Europe is that it ALSO
>requires creator/owner permission for all and any reuses, including, you
>should know, collage. So the people who invented collage are suppressing it
>even more thoroughly than we are. I don't even think they have an
>equivilant of our Fair Use. It has way overreaching power over the public
>desire to copy and especially transform existing work. Moral law intended
>to protect the "integrity" of works for all time, but what they did is make
>them untouchable without payment and permission for the forseeable future
>for any purpose, including new art. This is artist as God, and it's even
>worse than our artist as commercially operated slug.

my point exactly. on one side of the atlantic we have the archaic romantic
genius model of authors, and on the other the entrepreneurial model. both
are restricting the kind of artwork that we do. I wasn't
trying to suggest i support moral rights, just noting the
similarity between that already existing doctrine and the
quaint idea of "control" that the poor Pho member was
bringing up....


Steev Hise, Technical Thug
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 patterns that can change the thinking of people."
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