PTV always covered things by people who were enigmatic or into
expanding their minds through drug taking... I don't think that
sampling was on their mind at that point, although it was soon
afterwards, releasing the first British acid house record.
>I guess what reminded me of the Good Vibrations covers was that I
>think both Rundgren and PTV were trying to establish their studio
>virtuosity, and therefore their individual creative accomplishment,
>even originality, by making as close a copy to someone else's work
>as possible.
>
>>From: dserklandATnish.org
>>Reply-To: rumoriATdetritus.net
>>To: rumoriATdetritus.net
>>Subject: Re: [rumori] soundmosaic
>>Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:37:15 -0400
>>
>>"Are these two re-mindings actually of 2 different kinds?
>>Perhaps Doug was reminded conceptually (the ideas resemble
>>each other), whereas Dan was reminded sensually (Dab, I
>>would agree, aurally resembles the sound mosaics)..."
>>
>>Yes, I was thinking the same thing as I read your post. I think they both
>>sound very much alike, however, "Dab" was a reconstruction with one source
>>whereas Soundmosaic uses multiple sources. I COULD NOT have guessed the
>>sources of the soundmosaic - I couldn't hear Beatles or Coltrane, but I
>>could've guessed "Dab's" source without having known it.
>>
>>Steev, do you if "Dab" was algorithmically generated? To me it always
>>sounded like an abuse of the time-stretch algorithm.
>>
>>I wonder what it would do using the same file for both sources. There are
>>many things I'd like to try with Soundmosaic ;^)
>>
>>Is anyone going to try to compile it on their system? Is it Unix-only?
>>
>>-dan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Steev Hise <steevATdetritus.net> on 05/30/2001 03:00:44 PM
>>
>>Please respond to rumoriATdetritus.net
>>
>>To: rumoriATdetritus.net
>>cc: (bcc: Dan Serkland/National/NISH)
>>Subject: Re: [rumori] soundmosaic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Doug Harvey:
>>->"It reminds me of both Todd rundgren and Psychic TV getting hit singles
>>by
>>->making barely distinguishable (from the original) covers of 'Good
>>->Vibrations'"
>>Dan:
>>->Or "Dab"
>>
>>I've heard neither of the Good Vibrations covers (maybe i
>>don't need to, heh). but Dab is not a re-creation of "Bad".
>>it is an original work, and i don't think anyone would be
>>unable to tell it apart from "Bad"... I'd say some other
>>tracks from Plunderphonic are better examples of this idea,
>>the idea of re-creating a work from fragments. But on the
>>other hand, one of the best things about all of
>>Plunderphonic, and any *good* work of recycled culture, is
>>that it bears the mark of it's creator, part of which means
>>that it is distinct from the works that it recycles.
>>
>>Are these two re-mindings actually of 2 different kinds?
>>Perhaps Doug was reminded conceptually (the ideas resemble
>>each other), whereas Dan was reminded sensually (Dab, I
>>would agree, aurally resembles the sound mosaics)...
>>
>>smh
>>
>>
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