Re: [rumori] cleared?


From: illegal art (illegalartATdetritus.net)
Date: Sun Feb 02 2003 - 22:16:16 PST


ohhh..... that makes more sense. it just seemed odd to me that a
major label artist would put something other there so blatantly
stolen, unaltered, etc. ..... but now i see the light.

btw, parallel universe is a lot of fun.

philo

>I think that the record is in fact not by Cypress Hill. I am
>guessing that it is a third party, one-off record (notice the
>catalog number, a here-today-gone-tomorrow label plan for sure).
>I think that this record's producer is just going back to all
>the sources that Cypress Hill sampled, resampling those beats and
>making long instrumental tracks of just those beats and pressed it
>up as a one-off for djs to play with.�
>Imagine that they are building rough versions of the Cypress Hill
>instrumentals. I have several records in this vein that have
>nothing to do with the original artists and often the breakdowns and
>extra sounds in the mix are absent (not imitated).
>
>One reason I suspect this is because the only real mention of
>Cypress Hill is in the description, which is not going to get them
>in trouble with Cypress Hill. Calling the LP "Cypress Beats", the
>label "Cypress" I bet this is vinyl only, as it wouldn't really
>have a market as a cd.
>
>Based on experience handling lots of dj-oriented vinyl, that is my
>interpretation of the record. Even if this record doesn't have
>clearance with the original artists, I suspect they were only
>worried about avoiding Cypress Hill's attention. C.Hill could
>possibly have clearance for their own use(s) of those samples for
>their original albums.
>
>dj brokenwindow
>
>--- Paul Smith <postalscaleATyahoo.com> wrote:
>> Of course not. This is how Dr. Dre and The Beastie
>> Boys get sued by artists they've sampled. Some of the
>> samples listed below may be cleared, perhaps on a
>> sliding scale of "likely to notice or care", but I
>> would be greatly surprised if all of those samples are
>> cleared.
>>
>> And yes, they are encouraging others to sample.
>> Hip-Hop is very grass-roots. Hip-Hop songs have for
>> years have included either instrumental versions,
>> individual loops, or long, long breakdowns on their
>> recordings, specifically so the samples that they
>> reused in their songs could be reused yet again.
>>
>> In late 2000, "Nightline" produced a three part series
>> that went into this in some depth, looking at the
>> democratic nature of Hip-Hop and comparing it to other
>> forms of collage. Very instructive, I highly
>> reccomend it.
>>
>>
>> --- illegal art <illegalartATdetritus.net> wrote:
>> > does anyone know if w/ hip hop records such as the
>> > one below.... if
>> > they actually clear these samples? not only are
>> > they lifting the
>> > samples from recordings, but also encouraging others
>> > to re-use them
>> > (i believe).
>> >
>> > v/a "CYPRESS SAMPLES" (Cypress - CYPR 01) LP
>> > ***A certified dope collection of blunted funk jams
>> > circa 1966-1974
>> > sampled by hip hop champs Cypress Hill on their
>> > debut album. You get
>> > nine tracks of grooves, breaks and bumps from JIMMY
>> > McGRIFF, MUDDY
>> > WATERS, KOOL & THE GANG, TONY AVALON, BAR-KAYS, JOHN
>> > ROBERTS, BOOKER
>> > T & THE MGs, GRANT GREEN, and LOWELL FOLSOM.
>> >
>> >
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