Re: [rumori] mickey mouse wins

From: matt davignon (
Date: Wed Jan 15 2003 - 17:32:24 PST

Mickey is angry that you said that.

Okay, you caught me simplifying again. Sure, you and I know that Disney is
not synonymous with Mickey Mouse, and that NOT extending Disney's copyright
would actually mean for a lot more Mickey Mouse.

For the people who don't follow the news issues like this on a daily basis,
the copyright extension simply means that "People can't steal Mickey Mouse
from Disney for another 20 years."

I remember getting in an argument with another musician a year or so ago,
since he was certain that all mp3's are bad and that I must be a hacker and
a theif for offering my music in mp3 format.

Hell, 2 years ago (to beat a dead horse), millions upon millions of
Americans voted a guy into the White House because he would be more fun to
grab a beer with than the other guy.

I dare say that most people I encounter tend to reduce any issue down to a
few words before deciding what they think of it, even if that reduction
drastically changes the meaning or misses the point of the issue. I think
it's human nature. In fact, Justice Scalia just did it, stating that recent
court decisions on the seperation of Church & State have "gone too far in
keeping God out of the Government."

So I'm sure Disney pushed for this copyright extension as some sort of
"Protect Mickey" campaign, and I'm sure a lot of people bought it. That's
where I was going with that comment.


>From: Steev Hise <>
>Subject: Re: [rumori] mickey mouse wins
>Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:14:47 -0800 (PST)
>on Wed, 15 Jan 2003 matt davignon told me:
>->Wow, the Supreme Court - another government body that I don't have faith
>->I guess we couldn't really expect them to rule against Disney since, 1)
>->Disney has a ton of lobbying power and 2) Disney's characters are
>->endeared by most Americans.
>->how can we expect them to rule
>->against cute, cuddly little Mickey Mouse?
>This has nothing to do with being "against" or "for" Mickey
>Mouse. Disney is not Mickey. Mickey Mouse is just a property, a
>resource that by now should belong to the people. saying that
>Americans love Disney characters, and hence Disney should keep
>owning them, is like saying "most americans love national parks,
>so Exxon should drill at Denali."
>Steev Hise, Automagickal Adept
>*Recycled Culture: *Recordings:
>*Want Peace? Stop Paying for War:
> "The Internet formula for success turned traditional
> capitalism on its head. Traditionally, a company persuaded
> people to invest in it by making profits. Now it
> persuaded people to invest in it first, and hoped
> profits would follow."
> -Michael Lewis, The New New Thing
>Rumori, the Discussion List
>to unsubscribe, send mail to
>with "unsubscribe rumori" in the message body.
>Rumori list archives & other information are at

MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*

Rumori, the Discussion List
to unsubscribe, send mail to
with "unsubscribe rumori" in the message body.
Rumori list archives & other information are at

Home | Detrivores | Rhizome | Archive | Projects | Contact | Help | Text Index

[an error occurred while processing this directive] N© Sharerights extended to all.