Re: [rumori] dreams / sampling


From: Chris Ball (ball2000ATball2000.com)
Date: Fri Mar 09 2001 - 11:09:18 PST


Your dream is a veritable "sample" of Breton's Surrealist Manifesto #1, with
"music" spliced in place of "poetry!" You can borrow my copy if you want...

Therein is also outlined the surrealist production method: first
draft=final, stream of unconsciousness, stop for no reason :although it
tends to yield mountains of crap you don't know what to do with, speckled
with masterstrokes you never could have come up with 'intentionally.' Then
if you're like me, you try to adjust the stream of (un)consciousness to
generate just good parts, and the whole technique falls apart like a house
of cards. Oh, but I didn't try the highly recommended method of going
hungry for a few days before starting.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lloyd Dunn" <llATdetritus.net>
To: <rumoriATdetritus.net>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [rumori] dreams / sampling

> but of course -- sampling (collage) is an ally of surrealism, and a
> favored technique of dada. dada saw a failed world (post WW I) built
> by logic, and embraced nonsense. the surrealists after them embraced
> the meaning-bearing nonsense of dreams and dream states.
>
>
>
> >I just woke up from a very odd dream...and it got me thinking...
> >
> >dreams, in a way, are like samples of our everyday lives.
> >
> >in this dream i heard many many collaging phrases from
> >both sides of my head, and i'm going to write them down
> >before i forget them:
> >
> >"art is art, it is not music"
> >"music has nothing to do with words"
> >"it isn't music when it's not a whole"
> >"freedom is art"
> >"music has nothing to do with freedom"
> >"we sell music, we listen to art"
> >"everything is a part of something"
> >"everything that is not a part, is music"
> >"we buy things as a whole, we sell things in parts"
> >"art is not music"
> >"no, this is music...you can buy this"
> >"You cannot buy art"
> >
> >There was more...but those are the only phrases I can remember.
> >
> >I'm half tempted to hunt down spoken word samples that are
> >damned close to these, and eumulating the sound of this dream
> >as much as possible, and then making it available to all of you.
> >It was incredibly powerful to me....I just had to mention it here,
> >where I figured it might be appreciated.
> >
> >I always felt dreams and sample-art went together almost hand-in-hand.
> >When I listen to copies of our radio show, I'm often reminded of the
> >feeling of falling asleep with my eyes open, and being unsure if I'm
> >awake or not....hearing noises that don't seem right, but things
> >LOOK normal. It makes me wish to attain that effect all the more
> >during the radio show. For those of you who have heard it, I hope
> >we pull that off to some extent for you.
> >
> >I think we emulate dreams....making new art out of old.
> >
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